Good advive from all. Seems the dealer has built in a LOT of negotiating room. Check nada.com, Edmund's.com and kbb.com for pricing advice. If you decide to keep looking be sure to request a carfax report. If they offer some lame excuse for not giving you one then run the other way! You may find from carfax many of the newer Libertys with 25k to 30k miles were rentals in a previous life. Give these serious consideration. They were well maintained and still have full factory warranty. Plus if you go on the Internet you can buy extended Chrysler warranties way cheaper than what the finance guy will sell you at the Chrysler dealership. Let us know what you decide.