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post #16 of 30 Old 12-10-2013, 02:59 PM
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hey all, i have a bit of an update....today I noticed that the "chugging" sound doesnt happen when cold and not up to temperature yet....does anyone know if the tps is possibly disabled during warm up? Is there anything else that it could be seeing as it only happens when warmed up?
It's not disabled during start up, but will be in "open loop" during a short time of the warm up. After the open loop stage, it enters "closed loop" and it will return to open loop during heavy throttle/full throttle periods of driving.


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post #17 of 30 Old 12-10-2013, 04:24 PM Thread Starter
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Just got home from work, this problem is really getting to me. No idea where to start, honestly I dont have the extra $$ to go to the dealer for 92 an hour diagnostic fee. Without a CEL i dont know what else to check...anyone ever have a similar issue, the best i can describe it would be a fluttering type noise at first throttle, goes away after 1500 rpm or os. Anyone have suggestions? PLease Help!!
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Try going full throttle 5 times and see if that changes anything.

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Try going full throttle 5 times and see if that changes anything.

I can't tell if your being serious or not, lol?
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post #20 of 30 Old 12-10-2013, 05:44 PM
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I'm being serious. I never went full throttle in my vehicle until recently. It greatly improved how it felt while driving under normal conditions. Give it a shot on a safe back road that you know well.

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post #21 of 30 Old 12-10-2013, 10:51 PM
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If it helps, in gear, my ScanGauge says the throttle position is 11. Now find someone local that can check yours.

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post #22 of 30 Old 12-11-2013, 04:16 AM
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I'm being serious. I never went full throttle in my vehicle until recently. It greatly improved how it felt while driving under normal conditions. Give it a shot on a safe back road that you know well.
Now I have to ask, do you mean floor it from stopped position? How long are you "punching" it for? I can't say I've had the same issue as discussed, but especially with the blast of cold we have been gettin, it has been driving real rough.

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post #23 of 30 Old 12-11-2013, 05:36 AM
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Yes, floor it all the way 0-60. You don't have to be at a complete stop. Sometimes I just hold it down to the ground till 4th gear catches on.
Once again, please don't be an idiot, use caution, and only on a unoccupied road you are familiar with.

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Hey all, I'm hoping someone can look at their KK engine and help me out. I believe this sensor that is mounted to the engine is the map sensor, it's between the alt and water pump. Mine is held one by one bolt to the left and what appears to be a broken bolt/stud on the right side. Can anyone confirm this should have two bolts or is the right side supposed to be some type of stud to hold it there? If anyone is willing to help out a fellow jeeper that would be awesome.
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post #25 of 30 Old 12-11-2013, 08:08 PM
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When it was checked for an exhaust leak, did they check the cats? A plugged up catalytic converter can do weird things.
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post #26 of 30 Old 12-12-2013, 06:39 AM Thread Starter
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Not sure if they checked the cat or not, I will have that done. I tried the floor it 5 times, but didn't seem to help at all. I am stumped about this sensor, I can move it in/out a bit where it looks like there should be a bolt (rh side)....if this is supposed to be a bolted down area, could this also cause a vacuum leak? I'm really hoping someone could check theirs to see if it should be a bolt....I would be super grateful!!! I don't know anyone local with a KK...
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post #27 of 30 Old 12-12-2013, 10:19 AM
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When I cleaned my EGR valve a month or so ago, it seemed to make the Jeep run smoother. Some say it doesn't affect driveability, but it seemed to work for me. It'll take you less than 15 minutes.

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post #28 of 30 Old 12-13-2013, 09:09 AM
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Not sure if they checked the cat or not, I will have that done. I tried the floor it 5 times, but didn't seem to help at all. I am stumped about this sensor, I can move it in/out a bit where it looks like there should be a bolt (rh side)....if this is supposed to be a bolted down area, could this also cause a vacuum leak? I'm really hoping someone could check theirs to see if it should be a bolt....I would be super grateful!!! I don't know anyone local with a KK...
If the issue is the catalytic converter, romping on the throttle won't clear out the problem if the cat is plugged up. Not sure if this is even the problem but worth a look... major loss of power if they get plugged up.

My wife usually takes the Jeep to work, including today, but will try to get you a picture later this afternoon if no one posts by then.

Okay, since no one posted, do any of these photo angles help at all?
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post #29 of 30 Old 12-14-2013, 07:47 AM Thread Starter
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That helps a lot, mine looks exactly like that so I guess I'm not missing a bolt. This problem is so strange, I also noticed some air bubbles recently in my coolant, but I don't small any sweet smells. Could I have a small leak and Thai is the chugging sound I'm hearing? Not to mention its -17 today with the windchill...brrrrrr
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post #30 of 30 Old 12-14-2013, 08:42 AM
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That helps a lot, mine looks exactly like that so I guess I'm not missing a bolt. This problem is so strange, I also noticed some air bubbles recently in my coolant, but I don't small any sweet smells. Could I have a small leak and Thai is the chugging sound I'm hearing? Not to mention its -17 today with the windchill...brrrrrr
I think at this point we need a video clip of what's going on.

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