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Unread 01-29-2013, 10:41 AM   #31
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After the big snow and rain we got in Michigan I noticed my drivers side floor soaking. My headliner was dry, not sure if its the drain tube blocked or what.

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Unread 01-30-2013, 06:15 AM   #32
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Good luck! My sunroof has leaked since I bought my jet back in September! I was told to pretty much suck it up and get over it. It's a design flaw!

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Unread 02-01-2013, 01:36 PM   #33
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Own a 2010 with a sunroof. Headliner is stained all the way around the whole f'in jeep. Pulled up the plastic panels on the driver side floor and lifted carpet. Mold. Going to dealer on Monday. Not feeling so hot about the outcome.
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Unread 02-05-2013, 06:39 PM   #34
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Well, took the jeep in on Monday. Driving there Sunday night I could almost watch water soak the headliner above the A pillars. Suppose to be all fixed up. Reapaired and readjusted one drain tube and replaced the other. Also tweeked the weatherstripping around the sunroof. I have zero hope for this fix. When I got home today from work, I looked down on the passenger floor and noticed a bit of water on my rubber mat. Lifted it up and there was an actual puddle laying on the floor. There has been little snow since the fix, so either it was there the whole time or the company that came in and serviced the thing did it. I took a shopvac to the floor and got about half a gallon out. I quit after 15 minutes. It was dark and I'm just POed! I would have never gotten a jeep with a sunroof if I knew of this issue ahead of time. At the very least it was warranty work. Rant over!
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Unread 02-17-2013, 12:49 AM   #35
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I'm taking my car to a place that specializes in sunroofs. Wish me luck. Has anyone been able to find a cheap headliner? Molar wanted like 1200 or something. I didn't even want a sunroof to begin with but I just let it slide and got it. It was a used jeep. I take great care of my jeep and the inside just looks terrible. Took it to a car wash the other day, it was like taking a shower.
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Unread 02-28-2013, 04:48 PM   #36
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I have the same problem and now it is to a point it is so bad the driver's seat is starting to get soaked. It has progresivelly gotten worse. Dealership won't touch this problem but called in a specialist at their price he said it is a seperation problem between some metal piece of the moonroof assembly and plastic that creats a gap where water gets trapped. Since I have water on the driver side I opened the moonroof tonight and sat in and on the center console and put my head out the opening.

I cannot see where there is a seperation, (they said my drain tubes were where they needed to be and not "bent" outof place as is the common answer from a dealership.) but is anyone else aware of this problem or can provide a solution? They say the only way to solve it is to replace the whole assembly to the tune of one grand, which is out of this world. I also have a problem if I get a new assembly who isn't to say this problem won't happen again! Was the part redesigned and the problem solved?
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Unread 02-28-2013, 06:54 PM   #37
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Just had mine in tonight for leaking sunroof. They came to the conclusion the seal was bad. They replaced it. So we will see if that will be the solution.
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Unread 02-28-2013, 10:50 PM   #38
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Are your guys sunroofs flush with the roof when you look at them from the outside? My problem was this simple after two years of just dealing with it. The sunroof was closing but not lifting up to be flush with the roof.

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try this instead. I just tried it on my 2007 grand cherokee. Worked like a charm.
7. Place the ignition switch in RUN position.
8. Close all of the doors.

9. Press and release the vent switch (sunroof should move to vent position).

10. Once the sunroof has stopped motion at the vent position, press and hold the vent switch
for at least 5 seconds to recalibrate the sunroof position.

11. If the sunroof did not reach the full vent open position, press and hold the vent switch until
the full-vent-open position is reached then release the vent switch, then press and hold the
vent switch for at least 5 seconds to recalibrate the sunroof position.

12. Cycle the sunroof from the full-vent-open position to the full-slide-open position and back to
the full-vent-open position at least 7 complete times. The sunroof is now in customer mode
with the obstacle detection thresholds updated.
This was posted in another thread and fixed my problem. Worth a try.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 06:30 AM   #39
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I did the reset thing this weekend, Does the car beep or something that says it is completed? I just did it and guess it is reset...Not sure.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 07:39 AM   #40
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Nope, it just closed properly.

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Unread 03-05-2013, 01:41 PM   #41
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I had the same issue with my sunroof. The driver’s side drain was leaking at the joint where the drain tub meets with this the drain on the sunroof cartridge. Between the drain tube and the cartridge drain spout is a 1.5” section of rubber hose that connects the two. The hose was well attached to the drain tube, but did not have a secure fit on the sunroof drain spout. I ran a bit of black RTV silicone inside the rubber hose and slipped it back onto the sunroof drain. I then used the low E string from a bass guitar and plunged it into the drain from up top with the sunroof open to clear any RTV that may have slipped into the drain system. I have not had a problem since. Only real problem now is what to do with my brown stained head liner.
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Unread 03-07-2013, 10:52 AM   #42
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I had my stained headliner, and how easily it gets marked, even w sunglasses.
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Unread 04-05-2013, 07:15 AM   #43
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Hi.
I'm posting an update about my leaking sunroof on my Liberty. My sunroof stopped working; it wouldn't open at all. I took it to D & S Automotive, they are a custom shop with a good reputation. They said the retracting arms broke and there is a crack in the tray (which is plastic). The crack in the tray is what is causing the leaking down the column and flooding of the passenger side. It would cost $1200 to replace the sunroof brand new and $700 for a used one with no warranty.

On the bright side...they said the drainage tubes look fine.
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Unread 10-15-2013, 07:55 PM   #44
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I want to re-activate this post again. On 8/23/2012 in this thread I posted my sunroof problems. Three times I have taken it in for a leaky sunroof. The first time, under warranty, they said they made sure the drain holes were working correctly and they adjusted the sunroof to make sure it was closing properly. This dealer went out of business because of the Chrysler restructuring. The other two times we took it to this other dealership. They said they cleaned the drain tubes of debris under warranty; no charge. On one recent trip to the dealership, when I asked how to clean the drain tubes, they told me to simply blow air down the drain tubes. So I purchased a blow-gun attachment for my compressor that has a long thin metal tube on it. So, about three times a year I blow air down the tube to make sure the tube is clear. Then I slowly pour water down the drain holes of my sunroof and I verify the water drain out behind the front wheels. I also pushed a stranded and insulated #12-guage wire down the drain tube to make sure it went all the way through. What I do not know, without removing the headliner, is whether the hose leaks where it fits over the sunroof drain tube, like documented in this thread earlier. Also, whenever I would ask different mechanics about leaky sunroofs, they all would tell me the same thing. "All sunroofs leak a little" that is why there is a drip pan device of sorts to drain the water away. I still contend that the "factory design" of the drain tube is that they used too small a diameter hose to drain the water away. I was also told there are two front drain tubes (which I can see) and two rear drain tubes. I have yet to see these rear drain tubes and how to "blow-out" the rear tubes. I too have a seriously stained tan headliner.

Today my wife was upset enough about the problem, again, that she took it to the Jeep dealer where we have taken it twice, to complain. She does not believe that there is nothing we (me) or they can do about it. The dealer looked at our vehicle history; purchased new in '08, been to their dealership twice, and it still leaks. He said that the drain holes have to be cleaned out periodically. And, because it is no longer under warranty, we would have to pay for a diagnostic check to find out why it is leaking. We tried to explain that we brought it in three times during warranty for the same problem and it still leaks. His answer was this: "We were supposed to advocate for ourselves during the warranty period". Basically, he said we should have brought it to them every time we discovered a wet headliner to document the problem and to have them do a diagnostics on it. Every time they had "blown-out the drain holes", we should have brought it back during the next rain. Eventually, they would have been able to approach Jeep for a real fix to the problem. My wife tried to argue that it was their job to provide customer service in the first place.

So, while I was at work the next day, the dealer told her on the phone he would agree to charge us "half" the diagnostic and repair bill. She agreed. They removed the headliner, ran a hose over the sunroof, the sunroof leaked, and the drain pan overflowed. They decided to replace the rubber seal around the glass sunroof. Our half of the bill was $158. So, when we picked up the vehicle, I said to him that, since we had just paid for what we should have gotten for free under warranty, what are we supposed to do when it leaks again. He said to bring it back, they will do another diagnostic and make good on their repair.

The point of all of this is to remind everyone: while your car is under warranty, take it to the dealership each and every time it leaks, or each and every time it continues to do what ever it is not supposed to do. Make them fix it right the first time, under warranty.
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Unread 10-15-2013, 09:11 PM   #45
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My Jeep is about to hit 30000 miles. I haven't had a single issue (thankfully), but based on your post I'll be watching it very carefully! I hate warranty service... Thanks for your post!
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