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Unread 07-16-2013, 10:17 PM   #16
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Sorry all for taking your suggestions and opinions all wrong, rough week I guess. I went with smaller tires because I had the two back ones already from my BMW X3 M. The crappy Goodyear OEM tires went bad on me so I had to switch out fast. I kind a liked the look of the wider shorter tires on back so I thought Id just stay with them and go on the front too. Its 2WD so I dont plan on going off road at all with this rig. Im gonna go the street route and go sleek. The more I look at the front of the Jeep it needs the black Jet headlights badly! Too much chrome! so I plan on getting a set from ebay, tint the windows, plasti-dip the wheels, get the Jet chip and MAYBE do the Cold Air Intake or a K&N filter. Thanks all for your suggestions! And LibertyRS tell me more about those springs. david.shainjr@gmail.com
Done right, a lowered KK can look good. LibertyRS pulled it off(and I hate most lowered Jeeps/trucks and low profile tires, especially on Jeeps/trucks). I completely understand why you ended up with smaller tires, but my opinion is just going back to stock height or close to it (29-30" tall). That's just because I think it looks awkward with the tiny wheels and large body and it isn't my cup of tea.

However, if that's the look you like and the look you want then power to ya. It's YOUR Jeep. Do whatever makes YOU happy.

And Defiant , no more being a Richard. The lack of Richards we have and sticking together is what makes us Liberty owners and forums better! lol

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Unread 07-16-2013, 10:22 PM   #17
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I went with smaller tires because I had the two back ones already from my BMW X3 M. The crappy Goodyear OEM tires went bad on me so I had to switch out fast. I kind a liked the look of the wider shorter tires on back so I thought Id just stay with them and go on the front too
X3M! how do you like that? Parents used to have the X5, and we currently have an X6 5.0. Fun cars!!
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Unread 07-16-2013, 10:25 PM   #18
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Never a good idea to undersize tires especially on a SUV
sure some people do it but not a good idea for your safety and others
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Unread 07-16-2013, 11:13 PM   #19
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Never a good idea to undersize tires especially on a SUV
sure some people do it but not a good idea for your safety and others
Oh please! It doesn't hurt to under size tires! The worse thing it can do is throw the speedo off and change the ratio higher. Mine is a 2WD as well so if anything it would help handling by lowering center of gravity.
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Unread 07-16-2013, 11:18 PM   #20
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Oh please! It doesn't hurt to under size tires! The worse thing it can do is throw the speedo off and change the ratio higher. Mine is a 2WD as well so if anything it would help handling by lowering center of gravity.

Don't know much about tire sizing and why certain sizes are installed on different vehicles do you?
Some tire shops that I have managed and owned would not install undersize tires due to insurance regulations
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Unread 07-16-2013, 11:40 PM   #21
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Yes I know a lot about it. I'm done and this isn't the place to argue about it. Lowering, improving suspension, bettering sway bars, and yes changing wheels and tires are all mods that have been done and if done right will improve handling and response immensely! Enough said. Thread stopped!
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Unread 07-16-2013, 11:43 PM   #22
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Not arguing
DISCUSSING

lots of difference
If the tires are the same rating as far as what they can carry then all is OK, but many times people will install tires with a lower load rating that what is required and makes it dangerous
Oh well
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Unread 07-17-2013, 08:01 AM   #23
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You want to make it scream? Hypertech, trutrac and 4.10 gears. The tach will be a little high but the thing would set you back into the seat pretty hard.
No Hypertech for the 2012 yet Ted. Ask Musclez
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Unread 07-18-2013, 09:59 AM   #24
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Attached are some new pics of my project. Still at stock height and thinking of plasti-dipping wheels black. Then we gotta figure out what to do with those HUGE HEADLIGHTS!
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Unread 07-18-2013, 10:58 AM   #25
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Looking good!!

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Unread 07-18-2013, 11:46 AM   #26
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Here is a low-cost alternative to buying the renegade/jet blacked out headlights: http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB...p?f=88&t=55424
You could also paint them any color you wanted.
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Unread 07-18-2013, 02:57 PM   #27
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Or you could put on some covers.
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Unread 07-18-2013, 10:16 PM   #28
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Here is a low-cost alternative to buying the renegade/jet blacked out headlights: http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB...p?f=88&t=55424
You could also paint them any color you wanted.
Beat me to it. I think a few people went white or did color matching instead of black. All up to you though.
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Unread 07-23-2013, 08:34 PM   #29
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Beat me to it. I think a few people went white or did color matching instead of black. All up to you though.
I had all white bezels a while back
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Unread 07-27-2013, 09:38 AM   #30
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image-2625219699.jpg

So tis a long shot from my office window but you get the idea of what the final product looks like! It was a real ***** to get the headlights to split and a harder time to reveal them. I ended up using a whole tube of silicone sealer to al and hold the assemblies together along with the clips. I like it though.
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