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Unread 01-16-2012, 01:37 PM   #1
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Just met with a couple Chrysler guys that are working with the KL platform. They pretty much confirmed that it is going to be built off of the Fiat PF platform and use the 2.0L or 1.4L Turbo 4-cylinder engines. It is going to be somewhat similar to the Alfa Romeo Giulietta but about 3" wider and a taller stance to fit the drive line. No word on what 4x2 or 4x4 system will be used in it though. Kinda disappointing IMO but they did say that the interior will be really cool

It is also supposed to start rolling out early 2014

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Unread 01-16-2012, 02:40 PM   #2
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Just makes me glad I bought my new Arctic kk now before fiat has a chance to molest the platform!
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Unread 01-16-2012, 04:45 PM   #3
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It doesn't sound good IMO for the future of the Liberty.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 04:54 PM   #4
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yay another tinker toy on the road one rear end hit crumple like a beer can.Funny as sht hearing these new automobiles these days zzzzzzzzzzzzz.miss the old days when cars purred.il be like cuba and fix 57 chevy up rest my life
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Unread 01-16-2012, 05:08 PM   #5
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Fiat translates to "small clump of dung" in english. I will not even think about buying this nutless euro-gelding you speak of. A sad day to be sure.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 06:11 PM   #6
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damn!!!! good to have 2011 renny ,but as a european guy and fiat well known person italian tech have noting to do with american legend.....but now....... i dont want to see jeep become official pizza brothers truck( for now hummer doing good job....http://media2.picsearch.com/is?WR-wU...lRYWr-KWw2EzAQ
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Unread 01-16-2012, 06:37 PM   #7
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PF = CUSW=Chrysler, which means better.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 06:43 PM   #8
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PF = CUSW=Chrysler, which means better.
PF = Dodge Dart = Replacement for the Dodge Neon, which means NOT better lol...

Have a look at your new KL:



Note the sign hanging from the roof "KL MULE 1- AWD/4WD REWORD REQD"
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Unread 01-16-2012, 06:55 PM   #9
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Where did you get that picture? What plant is that?

... Never mind, it's CTC.

That's just a mule. No representation of actual model. It'll be used for powertrain testing only.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 07:29 PM   #10
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Where did you get that picture? What plant is that?

... Never mind, it's CTC.

That's just a mule. No representation of actual model. It'll be used for powertrain testing only.
It is in fact similar to the actual model. Like I said I met with one of the product engineers and one of the advanced SQE's from Chrysler today. He said that the KL is based on the PF platform which is the Dodge Dart:



However, like I said it is going to have a wider stance and a taller ride height. Probably an extended wheel base and a little meaner Jeep touch... however mean you can make a four-cylinder look
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Unread 01-16-2012, 08:31 PM   #11
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I've been hearing some things about the KL too. But I don't want to lose my job!

But they can use that as a mule all they want. They used it for the Dart, they can use it for the Liberty and the new 200. What you see in the mule, is sort of an Alfa Romeo Giulietta. The actual body will be completely different. In the past, a 300M was used as a mule for the 2005 300.

It's a great way to test out new models without actually testing out the new models.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 10:06 PM   #12
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i've been hearing some things about the kl too. But i don't want to lose my job!

But they can use that as a mule all they want. They used it for the dart, they can use it for the liberty and the new 200.

It's a great way to test out new models without actually testing out the new models.
tell them!!!
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Unread 01-17-2012, 01:15 AM   #13
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I read that the Dart was replacing the Dodge Caliber, which would make it similar in size to the Compass or Patriot...not the Liberty.
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Unread 01-17-2012, 04:12 AM   #14
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The Dart is a Caliber replacement, but it's essentially the next generation of the Neon. Anyways, I have a bad feeling about the next gen Liberty...
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Unread 01-17-2012, 06:47 AM   #15
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Lot of members on here are too young to remember the sales flops that Fiats, and several other european brands were in the 70s and 80s. Fiat, and several others, couldnt read the US market, and missed the target by a mile. Whether it be what they offered, poor styling, marketing, or quality, or the fact they leak oil like a BP oil well,lol, they are clueless. They are using Chrysler to do the same thing again. They are going to try and tell us what we want, then sink chrysler.
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