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Unread 08-10-2014, 02:53 PM   #1
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LED headlights conversion

So in the store where I was asking about the led bar i found out that they have also have leds for the headlighs, so my question is

has anyone ever done this to a KK?
does it improve visibility at night?
if I change the headlights do i have to also change the fog lights??

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Unread 08-10-2014, 03:04 PM   #2
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Do you have a link?
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Unread 08-10-2014, 03:43 PM   #3
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Subscribed. I'm interested in the same thing. I have LED fogs and white led running lights with my signals so my halogen mains look out of place. And before anyone asks, LED's are designed with the Halogen reflector in mind, and have a crisp cut line so they don't blind other drivers.
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Unread 08-10-2014, 05:58 PM   #4
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The ones there offering me are these ones
plasmaglow-igniters-led-headlight-bulb-conversion-kit-comes-___.jpg

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Unread 08-10-2014, 06:00 PM   #5
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Now, do they fit the headlight unit without a problem?? And what is the crisp cut line ??
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Unread 08-11-2014, 04:50 AM   #6
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The led replacements I was looking at seemed pretty good. They were also designed for the halogen reflector. I would've already pulled the trigger on it except they provide no heat, ice would build up on the lens in the winter. I will get them but not for awhile. I'll run them in the warmer months and switch back for the cold ones.
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Unread 08-11-2014, 06:04 AM   #7
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The link to the one I'm considering is in this thread.
http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB...p?f=88&t=79182
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Unread 08-11-2014, 03:18 PM   #8
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Thankfully in my country there is no snow so I can use them all year, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the led replacements and see how it goes
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Unread 08-12-2014, 10:58 AM   #9
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Now, do they fit the headlight unit without a problem?? And what is the crisp cut line ??
Basically it means that the reflectors will prevent too much light from travelling up into other driver's eyes, which is why people hate HID kits.
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Unread 08-12-2014, 12:15 PM   #10
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AFAIK no LED headlights work properly in Halogen lenses.

I can't say it any better than the candlepower guys so Ill borrow a quote:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...LED-headlights
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Safety, legality, liability, and responsibility.

Shine a flashlight at your garage door next to your car headlamp beams. You'll notice that there is a definite shape to the car headlight's beam. These blobs and shadows light the shoulder, the road near your car, the middle distance, the far distance, and overhead highway signs, without blinding many drivers. Your flashlight would give a broad wash of light, either not lighting the road nearby or failing to reach far away, blinding all the drivers, and over- or under-lighting the shoulder.

Vehicle lighting is a safety device - For you to be seen, for you to see with, and for you to NOT blind others with. There are definite laws and requirements in all civilized countries. Vehicle makers (Lexus, Toyota) do a lot of testing to make sure their lights are safe. At least $20,000 in testing (Photometric study, weathering&aging, durability & electrical) is done on every headlamp design. The photometric tests are valid for one car, one type of lamp cover (The clear bubble over projector-type lenses), and one mounting location. Changing any of these invalidates the testing and means YOU are taking into YOUR hands a guarantee that your lights are at least pretty likely to not cause excessive glare, fail suddenly, or fail to light the road well. Lots of studies show that drivers' opinions of their headlights are often opposite real performance. Bright light nearby is comforting and detrimental to driving reaction distance.


If a shady part-seller is lying to you about these things, you can be assured they won't show up when you get tickets, fines, or insurance liability for tampering with vehicle safety equipment.

Buy good OEM headlamps. Use clean lenses.
No mention of DOT legality...
http://www.plasmaglow.com/led-ignite...onversion-kit/
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Unread 08-12-2014, 08:07 PM   #11
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So in the store where I was asking about the led bar i found out that they have also have leds for the headlighs, so my question is

has anyone ever done this to a KK?
does it improve visibility at night?
if I change the headlights do i have to also change the fog lights??
Retrofit projectors..most cost efficient for improving lighting 0_o
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Unread 08-12-2014, 11:32 PM   #12
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Retrofit projectors..most cost efficient for improving lighting 0_o
I'll admit, yours look amazing. But I simply don't have the time or a steady enough hand to be willing to take a dremel to my lights. These LEDs seem like a good reliable replacement for Halogen that won't cause unsafe conditions for other drivers. But, I would need to see pics of them installed in a Liberty before I can decide.
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Unread 08-13-2014, 12:58 PM   #13
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If you want better headlights contact kolak on the forums here for a relay and go with good halogens
http://store.candlepower.com/bfcopoh1390p.html


Or talk to daniel stern: http://danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html
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So, basically what this guy is saying is that ANY variation from the stock bulb is unsafe and illegal, correct? If that's the case then the Hella higher wattage bulbs are no good either, even though they are also halogen bulbs. I'm prepping the BS flag. Just because it isn't certified doesn't mean it won't work. HID lights have a different geometry, the plasma arches as it burns throwing the light off center in a halogen reflector. The LEDs are centered with the low beam using half and high beam coming on with it completing it. The light is still generating from the center. I would have to see for myself where this would be an actual safety concern with the low beams on.
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Unread 08-13-2014, 08:11 PM   #15
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The led replacements I was looking at seemed pretty good. They were also designed for the halogen reflector. I would've already pulled the trigger on it except they provide no heat, ice would build up on the lens in the winter. I will get them but not for awhile. I'll run them in the warmer months and switch back for the cold ones.
Maybe its just me, but the trouble of switching back and forth just sounds like its not worth the hassle. I'd just get a nice LED bar, maybe 2. btw, love that blue color on your jeep.
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