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Unread 01-15-2013, 07:04 PM   #16
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I gotta ask, is this simply a less expensive way to get a lift on the KK? Would you recommend it over the Silver edition package? Or is the Silver Pkg still the better route if the funds are available when it comes to over all ride, value, and performance off road...I don't mean to put you on the spot by any means.

I also noticed that the package with your name in the title does not offer an option for the front strut to be pre assembled, is this an option?

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This is a all in one kit that is a basic kit. By no means a cheap lift that will not perform, its very good overall upgrade but by no means the top of the line either like the Silver.
Two completely different setups. This kit uses springs and shocks , while the "Silver Edition " is a true coil over setup.
None of JBAs kit have the option to be preassembled except again for the coilover which is a different setup

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Unread 01-15-2013, 07:27 PM   #17
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ALRIGHT! I made my decision. I'm gonna go with the Rocky Road Roackfather Deluxe kit because that is what is in my budget. I'm going to get the OME front springs and front strut shocks with the Insane Arms upper A-arms and then upgrade to the Rancho adjustable rear shocks. I want to then get bigger tires. I'm looking at the BF Goodrich All Terrian T/A KO tires. NEW QUESTIONS: I have the 2010 Jeep Liberty Renegade with 16" rims. My current tire size is 235/70R16. I think with the lift I am getting, I can go with just over 31" tires. But do I want 265/70R16 or 265/75R16 AND will I need wheel spacers if I want to use my stock rims?
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Unread 01-15-2013, 07:32 PM   #18
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I appreciate the straight forward answer. From what I gather it is a true get it done serious lift kit. However, if ride is of more importance on the road and the funds are available the Silver may offer a better city slicker ride.

Keeping in mind that I am a newbie when it comes to lift kits, what exactly is a clevis lift in simple terms. I'm sure I'm not the only person who gets confused with some of the terms used in various descriptions.

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Unread 01-15-2013, 07:37 PM   #19
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ALRIGHT! I made my decision. I'm gonna go with the Rocky Road Roackfather Deluxe kit because that is what is in my budget. I'm going to get the OME front springs and front strut shocks with the Insane Arms upper A-arms and then upgrade to the Rancho adjustable rear shocks. I want to then get bigger tires. I'm looking at the BF Goodrich All Terrian T/A KO tires. NEW QUESTIONS: I have the 2010 Jeep Liberty Renegade with 16" rims. My current tire size is 235/70R16. I think with the lift I am getting, I can go with just over 31" tires. But do I want 265/70R16 or 265/75R16 AND will I need wheel spacers if I want to use my stock rims?
Good luck,you will need it.You may get your parts and if you do they may fit.If you have any issues good luck getting any help from Glen.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 07:52 PM   #20
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I appreciate the straight forward answer. From what I gather it is a true get it done serious lift kit. However, if ride is of more importance on the road and the funds are available the Silver may offer a better city slicker ride.

Keeping in mind that I am a newbie when it comes to lift kits, what exactly is a clevis lift in simple terms. I'm sure I'm not the only person who gets confused with some of the terms used in various descriptions.

Thanks,
Ride maybe a bit better yes
But I wouldn't trade the ride that I have for any other
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Unread 01-15-2013, 07:54 PM   #21
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You will need to regear with tires that big. I would get the jba lift and keep your tires, save some money, get new tires, and consider what else you'll need to do and the costs with tires that big.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 07:55 PM   #22
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ALRIGHT! I made my decision. I'm gonna go with the Rocky Road Roackfather Deluxe kit because that is what is in my budget. I'm going to get the OME front springs and front strut shocks with the Insane Arms upper A-arms and then upgrade to the Rancho adjustable rear shocks. I want to then get bigger tires. I'm looking at the BF Goodrich All Terrian T/A KO tires. NEW QUESTIONS: I have the 2010 Jeep Liberty Renegade with 16" rims. My current tire size is 235/70R16. I think with the lift I am getting, I can go with just over 31" tires. But do I want 265/70R16 or 265/75R16 AND will I need wheel spacers if I want to use my stock rims?
really , better look again
Not any cheaper at all
plus parts listed are not always what you get
The Insane arms are junk, some fit , some don't plus look at theirs compared to JBA . No comparison at all JBAs much better
Also if going to that size tire be ready to regear
Step back take a deep breath and reread/rethink
Not even going to say anything on tire choice
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Unread 01-15-2013, 10:10 PM   #23
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ALRIGHT! I made my decision. I'm gonna go with the Rocky Road Roackfather Deluxe kit because that is what is in my budget. I'm going to get the OME front springs and front strut shocks with the Insane Arms upper A-arms and then upgrade to the Rancho adjustable rear shocks. I want to then get bigger tires. I'm looking at the BF Goodrich All Terrian T/A KO tires. NEW QUESTIONS: I have the 2010 Jeep Liberty Renegade with 16" rims. My current tire size is 235/70R16. I think with the lift I am getting, I can go with just over 31" tires. But do I want 265/70R16 or 265/75R16 AND will I need wheel spacers if I want to use my stock rims?
Ok.
Why that kit?
There isn't enough preload on the springs using that daystar copied top plate. They are trying to copy the frankenlift, but they are missing a major component. Also, they give you rear spacers. If you pay the extra for the rear ome shocks, i don't think you'll get the 132Ls, you get the 132s whicharen't long enough.
If it were me i'd buy the true ome kit from jba for 750, get jba arms if you want, and the extended bumpstops.
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Unread 01-16-2013, 06:34 AM   #24
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Can someone please give me the link to the JBA kit that is only $750?

One reason I am hesitant to use JBA is because my husband had a HORRIBLE experience with them when he ordered his lift kit.
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Unread 01-16-2013, 06:44 AM   #25
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Horrible experience with JBA??
never heard of anyone having any issues.
Marlin the owner bends over backwards to give great service
Just get on their site and look at KK lifts , not hard to do
or here's a complete kit wit UCAs and everything you need
http://jeepinbyal.gostorego.com/jeep...ft-kit-kk.html
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Unread 01-16-2013, 08:35 AM   #26
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Mudd's lift appears to be a good choice too. He wouldn't put his name on anything that wasn't. Just kind of suprised it doesn't come with extended bumpstops. You'll need those with any lift.
Here's the ome lift.
http://jeepinbyal.com/prod-OME_1_50__lift_kit-776.aspx
its listed as 1.5" but gives almost double that when you use 927 and 731 springs. You also need to select the N132 L rear shocks.
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Unread 01-16-2013, 08:49 AM   #27
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Horrible experience with JBA??
never heard of anyone having any issues.
Marlin the owner bends over backwards to give great service
Just get on their site and look at KK lifts , not hard to do
or here's a complete kit wit UCAs and everything you need
http://jeepinbyal.gostorego.com/jeep...ft-kit-kk.html
Ok well I assume that since this is your design you would recommend this over the OME Kit....please forgive my lack of knowledge with lifts...what are the differences. As Helm stated would I also need the bumps stops? If this is a complete set I think I would probably go with your set. If it will give me the lift that is shown on the picture on your link then that looks exactly what I am looking for.

One more question, I assume in that picture those are stock tires...what would be the largest tire that you would recommend with that lift using stock sport 16" rims?

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Unread 01-16-2013, 05:06 PM   #28
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Horrible experience with JBA??
never heard of anyone having any issues.
Marlin the owner bends over backwards to give great service
Just get on their site and look at KK lifts , not hard to do
or here's a complete kit wit UCAs and everything you need
http://jeepinbyal.gostorego.com/jeep...ft-kit-kk.html
I like this kit however, what is the point of the clevis space and how do I know what size I need? And if I wanted to get 31" tires while still using stock rims, would I need wheel spacers? And yes I know wheel spacers suck, but I can't afford new rims right now.
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Unread 01-16-2013, 05:10 PM   #29
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Clevis spacer gives you more lift
go for 14 or 3/8 spacer
31s and you'll more than likley need spacers since you'll have some rubbing when fully turned right and left
also 31s is going to be pushing it to where you'll need to think about regearing
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Unread 01-16-2013, 05:23 PM   #30
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Also, I have heard that anything over a 2.5" lift will cause premature CV wear because anything over 2.5" puts the CV's at too much of an angle. So why would I even want the clevis spacers? Don't they just add more lift? I only want a 3" lift tops. I'm starting to get on board with your lift Tom but I need a few more answers.
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