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Unread 12-19-2010, 12:26 PM   #1
Jeff88
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Help! 2009 Liberty Starter issue

We have a 2009 Liberty sport that we had an aftermarket remote starter put in about 2 months ago. It has worked perfectly, and not had an issue. I only mention this remote starter on the odd chance that it has something to do with the problem.

Today, my girlfriend went to start the Liberty with the key and it just sounds like the starter is spinning.

I am only mechanically inclined enough to be dangerous...

It sounds to me like the Solenoid? on the starter is not pushing the gear into the flywheel, so it just sits and spins.

Is there anything to look at with this on my own??? Something simple maybe?

Or do you think it probably needs a new starter?

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Unread 12-19-2010, 01:25 PM   #2
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Without hearing what your your hearing,it would be hard for me to tell you get a starter.There is no starter relays on these.I would suggest unhooking your battery for about a min.,and see if that helps,if not,you might need to get it diagnosed.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 01:33 PM   #3
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I am curious as to what your thought process might be on unhooking the battery?

Is this a reset feature of some sort?

If you think of what a starter motor would sound like if you had no gear engagement at all, that is what it sounds like. it sounds like an electric motor humming itself into a very high pitched whine. Like it is just free wheeling under there.

It is clear to me that the starter functions as it should in terms of what happens when the key is turned, but instead of engaging the gear, it just spins?

I am unsure of what it is that engages that gear? I think it has to do with the tiny little cylinder on the starter motor.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 01:39 PM   #4
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I am curious as to what your thought process might be on unhooking the battery?

Is this a reset feature of some sort?

If you think of what a starter motor would sound like if you had no gear engagement at all, that is what it sounds like. it sounds like an electric motor humming itself into a very high pitched whine. Like it is just free wheeling under there.

It is clear to me that the starter functions as it should in terms of what happens when the key is turned, but instead of engaging the gear, it just spins?

I am unsure of what it is that engages that gear? I think it has to do with the tiny little cylinder on the starter motor.
If you hear the starter spinning,then the solenoid must be working.If could be the starter is kicking out.Yes unhooking the Batt.,is a reset process.Chrysler vehicle has modules everywhere,and once in a while,the modules lockup,by unhooking the battery resets the module,sometimes not.Isnt this under warranty?
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Unread 12-19-2010, 01:51 PM   #5
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Well, It has 45,000 miles on it. She isnt here right now and I dont know where she has the warranty info for me to look at, but I think that it is only 3 year 36,000?

So... I think that part of the warranty is up and I also think that by putting an aftermarket remote start on it, we probably have voided the warranty.

I have never experienced this kind of sound before. I have had the clicking sound on previous cars, the nothing sound, the grinding sound, but this free spinning of the starter motor is all new to me.

I want to get under it, yet it is freezing and my garage is full and we cant get it inside anyway, as it wont move.

I just thought there might be a common issue with Liberty starters. Its been a good car so far, so maybe this is a flukey thing.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 01:56 PM   #6
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I just unhooked the battery for 5 minutes and hooked it back up and still makes the same sound.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 02:17 PM   #7
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I just had a thought... so I tried it, I went and pulled on the serpentine belt and got the motor to move just a little bit. I started it right away, but the starter doesnt sound as smooth as it did.

My thought was that there could be a missing tooth on the flywheel??

So, then I drove it down the driveway and shut it off, went to start it, same whirring noise again.

Got out, pulled the belt a little and it started again.

Shut it off, then tried again and same whirring noise.


I am unsure if the flywheel would have a missing tooth, and keep landing on the same spot??
That doesn't seem likely?

Seems to me like the gear on the starter is bad and getting stuck somehow and then when I pull serp belt it loosens it and allows it to engage?
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Unread 12-19-2010, 03:21 PM   #8
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Only way to be sure is to pull the starter check the flywheel teeth,if looks OK,then get the starter tested.If you bought this new,then you have a lifetime powertrain warranty.The starter might not be covered,but if the flywheel is bad,thats covered.
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