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Unread 02-09-2013, 06:10 PM   #1
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ESP in the SNOW gotta GO!!

4 hi in the snow(deep) sucks the brakes keep kicking on, put it in 4lo and it just goes thru it like nothing at all, Hey Jeep your doing to Jeep what the liberals are doing to this ****ry(yeah I spelled it right). JMO[IMG][/IMG]

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Unread 02-09-2013, 06:43 PM   #2
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Our KK does the same thing. I've had it in a situation where it wouldn't back up an uneven gravel driveway in 4hi due to traction control kicking in, but would walk right up it in 4lo.
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Unread 02-09-2013, 06:52 PM   #3
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You could always pull the fuse or relay to the ABS and put it back later. ABS in deep snow does suck. My TJ ain't got none of that!
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Unread 02-09-2013, 07:00 PM   #4
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Scar0 did a write up on lost for a switch to disable the abs and ESP and its been working great and I actually plan on doing it myself
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Unread 02-09-2013, 07:58 PM   #5
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X2 one of my favorite mods.

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB...lit=Switch+amp
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Unread 02-09-2013, 09:19 PM   #6
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Yup, I also have the kill switch. Great mod.


I'm sure you guys know, but if you're in 4HI, and you hold the traction button for like 5 seconds or so, it'll ding and all of your traction/stability will go off. It doesn't *completely* go off, but it shuts it down about 80% or so. I've never had a problem doing this and driving in the snow in 4HI.
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Unread 02-09-2013, 09:37 PM   #7
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Yup, I also have the kill switch. Great mod.


I'm sure you guys know, but if you're in 4HI, and you hold the traction button for like 5 seconds or so, it'll ding and all of your traction/stability will go off. It doesn't *completely* go off, but it shuts it down about 80% or so. I've never had a problem doing this and driving in the snow in 4HI.
I didn't know that you needed to hold it down for 5 secs. I just hit the button and traction control light just kicks on. That's good to know. I like 2wd driving it as much as I can, its fun until I get stuck lol
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Unread 02-09-2013, 09:42 PM   #8
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Yeah if you hit the button once, traction control is off, letting the wheels spin more and not limiting the power. HOLD it down until it dings, and the dash says "ESP OFF" and you disabled traction and the ESP, which won't kick in ABS if the rear starts sliding out. You have to be going pretty slow though; I've tried it at regular speeds and it doesn't work.
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Unread 02-11-2013, 03:28 AM   #9
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Yeah if you hit the button once, traction control is off, letting the wheels spin more and not limiting the power. HOLD it down until it dings, and the dash says "ESP OFF" and you disabled traction and the ESP, which won't kick in ABS if the rear starts sliding out. You have to be going pretty slow though; I've tried it at regular speeds and it doesn't work.
I bet I know why: ERM. Electronic Roll Mitigation. You NEVER want that off. So when sliding the back around with the ESP off, it'll let you have your fun just as long as the computers don't sense a rollover about to happen.
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Unread 02-11-2013, 06:09 AM   #10
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black box??

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4 hi in the snow(deep) sucks the brakes keep kicking on, put it in 4lo and it just goes thru it like nothing at all, Hey Jeep your doing to Jeep what the liberals are doing to this ****ry(yeah I spelled it right). JMO[IMG][/IMG]
anyone know what the black box under the bumper below the gas fill is??
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Unread 02-11-2013, 07:14 AM   #11
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Fuel evaporative canister. Basically a box filled with charcoal with sensors plugged into it.
We'll get it relocated eventually...
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Unread 02-11-2013, 09:34 AM   #12
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the pump

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Fuel evaporative canister. Basically a box filled with charcoal with sensors plugged into it.
We'll get it relocated eventually...
Ohh it must be the pump that shoots the half gal o gas back out atcha when you fill it up.
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Unread 02-11-2013, 11:56 PM   #13
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I bet I know why: ERM. Electronic Roll Mitigation. You NEVER want that off. So when sliding the back around with the ESP off, it'll let you have your fun just as long as the computers don't sense a rollover about to happen.
I just meant turning that stuff off by holding the traction button on doesn't work at normal speeds.
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Unread 02-12-2013, 11:50 PM   #14
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I just meant turning that stuff off by holding the traction button on doesn't work at normal speeds.
I know. I think that's probably because a rollover is more likely at normal speeds when the vehicle oversteers
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Unread 02-13-2013, 06:53 AM   #15
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Ah, gotcha. I'm following now.
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