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Unread 04-25-2010, 01:14 AM   #1
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Driving in Snow

Is there anyway to keep the jeep liberty from cutting off throttle and making a weird noise... "I've heard it's normal but I don't want anything to get damaged" when the tires slip in the snow? I'm not doing donuts or anything but I'd rather control the vehicle myself. Thanks.

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Unread 04-25-2010, 10:55 AM   #2
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Read the manual in the glovebox and you can be enlightened and educated to the modern features of this wonderful 4x4, and press the ESP button on your dash.
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Unread 04-25-2010, 07:12 PM   #3
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Thats the ESP applying your rear brakes and managing the Throttle. Perfectly Normal. You can press the ESP Button but it doesnt fully disable it, it simply up's the treshhold. But you should keep it on since this is designed to help your vehicle operate safer when traction is lost. Id hate to see someone turn off ESP and loose control when it might have been avoided with it on.
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Unread 04-27-2010, 08:38 PM   #4
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It would be nice to be able to turn it off when you want to. I'd like to have the choice. There are sometimes when I want to give it gas to blast through a snowbank or something and the ESP cuts me off. Not cool.
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Unread 04-27-2010, 10:10 PM   #5
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It would be nice to be able to turn it off when you want to. I'd like to have the choice. There are sometimes when I want to give it gas to blast through a snowbank or something and the ESP cuts me off. Not cool.
Pull the ABS fuse,no more ESP or ABS to worry about.
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Unread 05-12-2010, 01:53 PM   #6
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It would be nice to be able to turn it off when you want to. I'd like to have the choice. There are sometimes when I want to give it gas to blast through a snowbank or something and the ESP cuts me off. Not cool.
Yeah, I was 4x4ing in mad snow last week. Was actually only about 10 inches deep, but there was ice underneath -- had no trouble in 18 inches of snow, but it was that darn ice. I forgot about turning ESP off and I had that pit in the stomach feeling because I thought I was going to get stuck and I was 40 miles from the nearest town (offroading in the backcountry of Canada -- yeah, not a good idea to go alone, I know. That's why I quit while I was ahead.). Soon as I realized I had ESP on, hit the button, spun the wheels like crazy and got out of there.

Wish ESP could be fully disabled though for fun times snow drifting. It just eats up your brakes. I've heard you can pull the fuse for the ESP in the glovebox and that will fully disable it though. To turn it back on, just plug the fuse back in.
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Unread 05-12-2010, 01:55 PM   #7
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Pull the ABS fuse,no more ESP or ABS to worry about.
Ah, it's the ABS fuse? Not one separately just for ESP? How does one know which fuse controls the ABS? Would I be right to assume it's outlined in the manual?
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Unread 05-14-2010, 10:45 AM   #8
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Ah, it's the ABS fuse? Not one separately just for ESP? How does one know which fuse controls the ABS? Would I be right to assume it's outlined in the manual?
Yes, there is a fuse panel diagram with labels in the owners manual.

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Unread 05-14-2010, 11:23 AM   #9
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Pull the ABS fuse,no more ESP or ABS to worry about.
Or put in a togggle switch for donught mode
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Unread 05-15-2010, 05:24 PM   #10
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Or put in a togggle switch for donught mode
I like! How can that be done?
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Unread 05-15-2010, 05:41 PM   #11
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I like! How can that be done?
LOST JEEPS • View topic - ESP On/Off Switch install "For off road use."
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Unread 05-19-2010, 06:31 AM   #12
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Ok so now I have to ask since we're on the topic. I fully understand the concept of a locking differential and I know that driving in the '4 wheel lock' in dry conditions puts a lot of stress on the drivetrain, but, as someone who hasn't ever gone off-road before (well at least not in the way you guys do), I'm just curious as to what this means for driving in the snow?

What happens when you have to make a tight turn in the snow (like a 90 degree turn into a driveway or going into a parking spot)? Also, what is the protocol for a road that is part snow/part asphalt (uncovered)?

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Unread 05-19-2010, 07:28 AM   #13
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As long as there IS snow on that Tight Turn your fine, because the inside wheels will spin slightly faster than the outside wheels which is why you cannot use Part Time 4WD on dry pavement. For roads that are partially covered its kinda tricky, because you shouldnt use it on the dry stuff but you want to on the slippery stuff, if the patches are on a straightaway so when you go over the dry patches and your not turning it shouldnt be an issue but if the dry stuff is on a turn then you should turn off Part Time 4WD and enable it when your out of the turn
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Unread 05-19-2010, 10:33 AM   #14
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Got it - that's what I figured. Basically you've got to be on your toes in that partial-snow situation (which you should be anyway). I know you're not going to destroy your drivetrain with one dry pavement run, but it's a long-term damage kind of deal so I do want to be careful.
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Unread 05-19-2010, 11:12 AM   #15
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Exactly
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