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Unread 01-29-2013, 04:07 PM   #1
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Bringing her in.......

Bringing her in for service over the tranny shift problem and the gas fill overflow, its a certified jeep so well see what happens. It fairly well modified since I got it 2 months ago, so well see what they say. KN intake, flowmaster cat back, rock sliders 2.5 JBA lift and upper a arms, roof rails and garvin basket and 245/75/16 Duruatracs. lets see if they notice and if they honor my waranty. will post results.

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Unread 01-29-2013, 04:13 PM   #2
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Warranty must be honored under the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act, UNLESS they can prove that a specific modification you made caused a specific failure. It most be proven beyond doubt that the modification you made was the direct cause of the failure. Its very hard for a warrantor to do, and usually not worth their time/money to fight it once it has been presented before them. Google for more info.
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Unread 01-29-2013, 07:03 PM   #3
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Bringing her in for service over the tranny shift problem and the gas fill overflow, its a certified jeep so well see what happens. It fairly well modified since I got it 2 months ago, so well see what they say. KN intake, flowmaster cat back, rock sliders 2.5 JBA lift and upper a arms, roof rails and garvin basket and 245/75/16 Duruatracs. lets see if they notice and if they honor my waranty. will post results.
Hey tub, I'm sure you have already but I don't remember where. Have you posted any pics with those mods (primarily the lift and tires)? If not may I ask you for some?

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Unread 01-30-2013, 07:19 AM   #4
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Magnuson Moss Warranty Act, is a joke. What it boils down to is the manufacture saying your aftermaket adds are at the root cause of the problem you are experiencing. Then you argue you case to the service manager, then the district manager, then to the main office (IE: Chrysler/Jeep/Fiat). If the answer is still no. You have the option to hire an attorney, who can go up against the Big Dog Manufactures attorney to which at this time it becomes a matter of who has the deeper wallet to pull expenciences out of.

Yes in theory the MMWA was written with good intentions, but good intentions don't always work out?
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Unread 01-30-2013, 03:51 PM   #5
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Magnuson Moss Warranty Act, is a joke. What it boils down to is the manufacture saying your aftermaket adds are at the root cause of the problem you are experiencing. Then you argue you case to the service manager, then the district manager, then to the main office (IE: Chrysler/Jeep/Fiat). If the answer is still no. You have the option to hire an attorney, who can go up against the Big Dog Manufactures attorney to which at this time it becomes a matter of who has the deeper wallet to pull expenciences out of.

Yes in theory the MMWA was written with good intentions, but good intentions don't always work out?
True, like I said its more hassle than its really worth for both parties involved. However, it does work and can be beneficial in extreme circumstances. I read a case (yes, just one) on another forum which benefited the consumer.
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Unread 01-30-2013, 04:28 PM   #6
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True, like I said its more hassle than its really worth for both parties involved. However, it does work and can be beneficial in extreme circumstances. I read a case (yes, just one) on another forum which benefited the consumer.
LOL!!! There is always going to be that one time!!

Sometimes I think that the only reason that the MMWA was ever written was for those who invent, manufacture, sell and profit from aftermarket items. This allows them something to boast out front in their advertising saying that "Our product is excellent and will cause no problems with your factory warranty" When in fact what they are saying is that if their product does cause problems with your vehicle, Don't come looking at them to pay to repair your problem.....

Bottom line is the old saying of "Ya gotta pay to play".
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Unread 01-30-2013, 06:08 PM   #7
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^Also true. Ive seen it go the other way too. A friend of mine had a 1.5 farad capacitor on his amps. Somehow the power line came loose or frayed under the flooring and disconnected, contacted the cap via 0AG cable to the frame right above his CV transmission. Cap discharged all 1.5 farads into the trans and fried all the electronics. Trans HAD a 100,000 mile warranty, until they noticed the cable welded itself to floorboards upon discharge from the cap.
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Unread 02-02-2013, 08:40 PM   #8
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Hey tub, I'm sure you have already but I don't remember where. Have you posted any pics with those mods (primarily the lift and tires)? If not may I ask you for some?

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Thats her with JBA 2.5 lift and a arms, Atthehelms FRont Bumper(rears goin in tommorow) and 245/75/1 Duratracs flowmaster cat back KN intake, JET2 module and Garvin racks and RRO roof rails.
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Unread 02-02-2013, 11:06 PM   #9
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Thats her with JBA 2.5 lift and a arms, Atthehelms FRont Bumper(rears goin in tommorow) and 245/75/1 Duratracs flowmaster cat back KN intake, JET2 module and Garvin racks and RRO roof rails.
Lookin Good! I'd shoot some black paint on bottom of the crossmember and where the wheel well liner was cut.
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Unread 02-03-2013, 06:31 AM   #10
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The bumper in the photo, it that the first design from ATH or his latest design bumper. I believe the first was a more thin look. Or maybe I am wrong all together.

Either way your KK looks KILLER!!!!
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Unread 02-03-2013, 08:30 AM   #11
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The bumper in the photo, it that the first design from ATH or his latest design bumper. I believe the first was a more thin look. Or maybe I am wrong all together.

Either way your KK looks KILLER!!!!
thats his bumper, he took it off and shipped it, I couldnt be happier and the rear is sitting in my living room waitin to go on.
*** well as the hi lift, transgo shift kit and spare on the rack.
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Unread 02-03-2013, 09:40 AM   #12
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I would love for them to explain how my tranny does what lib trannys do, as well as the gas tank overflowing due to my mods. will post follow up.
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Unread 02-08-2014, 08:25 AM   #13
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I would love for them to explain how my tranny does what lib trannys do, as well as the gas tank overflowing due to my mods. will post follow up.
definitely follow up. I just recently decided to keep the jeep over buying a truck, and one of the main reasons is the warranty I still have on it. But, in order for me to keep it I will have to upgrade the suspension, and if I do that I might as well lift it. I'm real curious as to how a Jeep dealer handles the warranty with the JBA lift in place. I could live with them killing the warranty on the CV axles, but if they look for reasons to kill the warranty on the motor, tranny, and transfer because of it, I may just have to re-think my plan.

BTW: they fixed my gas tank (they replaced the whole tank) a few thousand miles past the bumper to bumper warranty, then about a year later I received a letter in the mail from Jeep stating they were aware of the problem and they would fix it.
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Unread 02-08-2014, 07:50 PM   #14
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Old thread....

Anyway the dealer has to prove that your modifications voided the warranty. A lot of jeep dealers install lifts too..

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Unread 02-09-2014, 09:33 AM   #15
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Old thread....

Anyway the dealer has to prove that your modifications voided the warranty. A lot of jeep dealers install lifts too..

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looked back at the year in the original post. I guess I haven't accepted it to be 2014 yet.
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