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post #1 of 8 Old 04-01-2011, 06:14 PM Thread Starter
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Audio system upgrade soon!! :) need some input

hey guys, i would say SUMMER is around the corner but who knows with this weather lol

anyway its time to upgrade, the stock system just isnt cuttin it anymore for me.

so heres what im doing and looking to get, kinda on a budget so it's not the greatest equipment but after looking and researching online for probably a month now ive finally pieced together a decent system, here's the products:

Head Unit -

First Question - on they state "Your vehicle has no accessory power lead at the receiver. The integration adapter provides the accessory power you will need for your new receiver.
PAC C2R-CHY4 $129.99
" and that is the only site that says i need that, is this true? did any of you guys encounter this problem?????

Second question - ive given up on looking around for the correct speaker size of my KK. Every website says different, i went into PC Richards and they say they are all i dont think so. but here's a set i found

Sub -

last question... how much of a pain in the *** is removing the door panels?

please post anything u guys feel will help me do this correctly. i want to do it all in one shot, and not screw anything up. Thanks!!

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post #2 of 8 Old 04-02-2011, 02:04 AM
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I would stay away from square subs. They tend to be very loud but do not sound the greatest. I am a bit of a sound quality freak so I went with Hertz audio speakers and sub. My one 10'' can go lower and louder than my buddies 2 pioneer pos 12'' subs. I spent allot of time shopping around at specialty audio shops and all the square subs sounded like junk when compared to a round sub of equal price. I have a alpine cda-103 and it has great sound quality for the price.

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post #3 of 8 Old 04-02-2011, 02:25 AM
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If crutchfield says you need it after plugging in your make model year and current set up, then you probably need it. They are very good at helping you get what you need. I have ordered from them several times and where the price may be higher, the great customer service and tech support on top of free install gear can not be topped. Plus there RMA procedures and timeliness is awesome. I blew a set of tweeters 3 weeks after i got them (they were faulty) they sent me the new ones as fast as shipping as they could and return lables for the old ones. no cost to me.

Also being a bit of an audiophile and a mechanic my self (audio freak sounds just plain horrible) i can tell you many of the new vehicles today need an integration kit for the stereos to work. The aftermarket head unit is designed to work with every vehicle out there not just yours. There for integration kits are made to connect that head unit to the specific vehicle.

As for your 08 jeep, you probably are using the C.A.N bus system, which integrates with the factory stereo for your steering wheel controls and theft deterrent. There will be a integration kit needed for you to connect any aftermarket stereo no matter the type brand or features.

Square subs are in no way different then the round ones in all reality. Both reproduce sound waves. Now the specs that they reproduce them at are definitely important. Round or square, signal to noise, THD, RMS, single or dual voice coil, and Ohm's rating are more the determining factor of how your system will sound. Also a properly built box for that specific sub (prefab boxes suck, there designed to universally work, not just for that specific sub). Coupled with a decently powered head unit (the pre-amp circuit) proper cables and installation and a proper amp, any thing can be made to sound decent to a point. But as with anything you get what you pay for. The louder or cleaner you want, they more you need to spend. Consider this, a single 10" sub, with box, amp, install kit, installed should cost you about $500 to $750. If you can do it for less then $500, well, you bought some cheap crap unless you got lucky and it was all on sale.

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post #4 of 8 Old 04-02-2011, 06:32 AM
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Go with a nice Kenwood unit I think they are much easier to use and if you can find an all in one unit they are much easier to install then having to find a place to put the brain of a the nav unit. The door speakers are 6x9 but I would keep them till they blow up. I Kept mine and installed my Diamond audio D3 with diamond audio box sounds amazing and great quality. My buddy that manages Tas electronics gets a little jealous from time to time on how good it really sounds!.

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post #5 of 8 Old 04-05-2011, 02:30 PM Thread Starter
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ok so i made some adjustments and im liking this setup WAYYY better, tell me wat u guys think heres the lineup

Head Unit -
(accessory harness required) - -
Subwoofer -

nlynd1978 i kno you were talkin about a correct size box for a specific subwoofers, which put me at a halt with ordering the correct size box, and we all know how much space we have in the cargo area (not much) and im in the trades so im haulin a bag of tools and a 4ft ladder in the back as well so im really not trying to go for that big of a box for this sub soooo help? lol
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post #6 of 8 Old 04-05-2011, 03:23 PM Thread Starter
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forgot the amp, this is my old amp that im using

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post #7 of 8 Old 04-06-2011, 03:33 AM
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That amp is worthless for 3 reasons. 1. Its a Pyle. 2. Its a Pyle (yes its so bad its gets to be two reasons). 3. Not C.E.A. 2006 compliant and no actual ratings posted. 1000 what? Watts, Rubber Bands, ninjas? Is that Peak? RMS?

That head unit is junk. Its a box that plays cds and radio. All other functions such as bluetooth, nav, hd radio, ect require addons. Not worth 410 for a dvd player either, can get a Jensen with better options and bigger screen for same amount. Yes i see its on sale for 300, still not worth it. I paid $120 (on sale) for a Dual, with BT, HD radio, A2DP BT streaming, Ipod control ect. Dual xhd7714, at best buy. I like it. Read a lot of good reviews on it. HD radio is awesome, but you have to be able to get good signal. So its kinda spotty, but could be multitude of reasons on top of i live in the way far out suburbs. total with 4 year warranty and installation components needed was about $200 even.

MY GOD, those subs suck. First off if you have a sub capable of pulling 3500 watts peak, you need an amp capable of pushing over 4000 watts peak. Other wise buy several amps so you don't have to wait when you blow one to change it out. Secondly, since there not C.E.A. 2006 compliant, don't believe a single word of the 1000 watt rms ratting. How was it rated? Was it sunny with a slight breeze, 72 degrees F in a 92 Honda Civic Hatchback with a ported box, down wind of a cattle farm on stall mucking day? Or was it a Saturday evening, 45 degrees out in a convertible, during a tornado, with the top down? No im not trying to be funny. There is a reason for this standard. Heres a link i suggest reading up on it. Brochure For C.E.A. Standard

If you don't have say $1500 to through away at good (not great just good) equipment, ie head unit, speakers, sub amp ect, don't bother upgrading. A sub, amp, box, and wiring kit should be about 500 (low) to 750 (decent). Mind you for that your getting a single 10" maybe 12" single possible dual voice coil sub, rated for 500 watts or less, a single box, on amp enough to run the one sub, and the wires to connect it to a after market stereo and power and ground. Nothing else.

What i suggest you do before even looking at equipment is decide on a couple things first.

1. How much will you spend. Anything less then 1500 and you should not even be considering anything with a dvd player in it. Unless you dont mind cheap ones that skip and jump and work horribly. You get what you pay for in this industry. The bigger the price the more features and better quality it usually is.

2. How do you want it to sound. You worried about buying a sub, and a box, and a head unit, but have considered what you want the sound to be like. Do you want Quality? Loud? Both? What kind of music do you listen too? Certain sub sizes and setup are better for different types of music..

3. Cargo room? Is it an issue? if so smaller gear may be a better option. Maintaining certain factory components. Factory fit? will that speaker be to deep and now doesn't fit in that spot.

4. What was the the factory system. Do you have an infinity system? Do you intend to keep the original speakers if you dont? Upgrades for the system?

Thats just 4 of many factors you need to decide on before you even consider which gear to buy let alone how much each part is worth. The shop i worked at often made about 2500 or more for a standard head unit, 4 speakers (one component set) amp, sub, sub amp, custom box and wiring. This was good equipment. Nothing special, played cds, maybe burned ones, was tuned and sounded decent. sub picked the low end up and overall it sounded great. My own person vehicle at that time, had over 10k in equipment in it. I competed in both spl and sql. Big difference in hitting 145 decibels and sounding great or doing both. Big difference in cost too.

Also please dont read this and get scared of upgrading your system. Im not trying to scare you, just trying to educate you on some finer points. Good equipment is not sold at a off name website with no tech support. Try crutchfield. Yeah you will pay more. But the free tech suport, often free install goodies, and awesome customer service will make your day that much better. Plus they do have deals here and there. I bought a complete Infinity Reference speaker upgrade from my 99 WJ with infinity system. Some of the speakers were blown. Bought all three sets (tweets, 6x9, 6 1/2) for less then 300 shipped with install gear, tech support and next day shipping.

Just some food for thought.

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I'm thinking of trying this Infinity Basslink to conserve space. Has anyone tried it? I've actually heard good things about it.
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