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Unread 05-31-2010, 08:20 AM   #46
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I dont know i have the 16" and i love em. More tire for offroading and less wheel
i have the 16'' tires as well but recently the idea of getting 18''s aluminum chrome is spinning round my head like crazy

that Vs the fact of hurting my wallet with more than 1k usd is killing me

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Unread 06-01-2010, 06:49 AM   #47
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My local dealer has prices on their website and are between $5k and $6k off of list with the rebate. I'm tempted to look at one with a Skyslider.
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Unread 06-01-2010, 07:10 PM   #48
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Worth Buying?

Well I have a 1995 Wrangler Jeep that I have been driving for over 16 years. Before that I had a 1987 CJ-7 and before that I had a 1979 CJ-5 so I know a little bit about Jeeps. I wanted a 2010 Wrangler but my legs ain't what they used to be so I thought it more prudent to get a 2010 Liberty. I thought I was making a compomise in getting the Liberty but I found out the Liberty is a "real" Jeep too. You can't compare Jap SUV's to the Jeeps because they don't have the drivetrain or frame construction of the Jeeps. The Liberty doesen't get good gas mileage, but then thats not why I bought it. I bought it to get out in the rough PA winters when the only thing moving on the roads are Jeeps and 4wd pickup trucks. The ground clearance of my 2010 Liberty is greater than my 1995 Wrangler so it's no slouch in the snow. The interior is fine as far as I'm concerned...no custom leather seats but mine are pretty comfortable. I read the reviews on the internet from various places and they are all bad concerning the Jeep Liberty....they don't like it because they are comparing a Liberty to a normal car made for a different purpose. The Jeeps, including the Liberty, are not cars! Period! They are multi-purpose utility vehicles (like the first Willys Jeep) where the most important design consideration is to be a rough and tumble vehicle that can perform in almost any situation....Jap SUVs are not designed for that....they are cars with a body that looks like an SUV with a light duty compromise 4wd system...not like command-trac or select-trac. In the end..you are the judge...buy a car or buy a Jeep.

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Unread 06-02-2010, 10:30 PM   #49
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I've had my 2010 Renegade now for 6 weeks and 3,000 miles. I couldn't be happier. This is my 5th Jeep (Wrangler, 2 XJ's, WJ) and it fits my overall lifestyle to a T. I drive a lot for work so I had to have something quiet, comfortable, and capable...and it is. I especialy love the fold-foward passenger seat for putting stuff that I need to take notes on or stuff I need easy access to. Gas mileage? Here's the thing...do the math. A less capable 19/25mpg SUV-like product won't save you as much money as you think. Equate it to driving across town to save 5 cents/gallon on gas. On 12 gallons, you just saved 60 cents. Way to go! Anyway, based on 1,000 miles/month at average MPG consumption, it's about $20-25. IMO, that's a small price to pay for something truly capable that will tow 5,000 lbs and support your lifestyle.

BTW, get the Sky Slider! It rules!
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Unread 06-03-2010, 11:18 AM   #50
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I bought it to get out in the rough PA winters when the only thing moving on the roads are Jeeps and 4wd pickup trucks.

Paul
i totally agree with your comment
although the latest jeep marketing on i've seen on TV lately doesn't seem to validate this point of view as strong as we all like to. 'that' makes me mad
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Unread 06-16-2010, 09:45 PM   #51
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Wait a minute, they're replacing the Libertys'? With what? Or are they just getting rid of them? Thats sad....
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Unread 06-17-2010, 08:35 PM   #52
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Unread 06-17-2010, 09:19 PM   #53
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Wait a minute, they're replacing the Libertys'? With what? Or are they just getting rid of them? Thats sad....
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Anyone know?
The XJ and KJ and KK have been pretty successful for Chrysler. It would be stupid of them to drop the midsize Jeep and have nothing below the Grand with a fixed roof.

But...the other side of that is...

Most of the mall crawler people that would never take their Jeep off road are buying Patriots instead of Libertys now, and most of the people that are interested in going off road that need a 4 door Jeep are buying JKUs, so that would make the Liberty somewhat redundant in the marketplace for Chrysler.
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Unread 06-17-2010, 10:35 PM   #54
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This is Chryslers plan for the Liberty:

In 2013 Patriot, Compass, and Liberty will be replaced by vehicles “developed from Fiat platforms” which we are promised will still have the Jeep DNA — small SUV, C-size SUV, Liberty replacement.
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Unread 06-18-2010, 07:30 AM   #55
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patriots and libertys are totally different animals

patriot looks like a small chihuahua
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Unread 06-18-2010, 12:37 PM   #56
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I agree.

So the Liberty will be around for 2012? Are there any design changes planned?
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Unread 08-15-2010, 01:27 AM   #57
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I've owned a 2002 Liberty Ltd and now own a new 2010 Liberty Ltd. The '02 was flawless for the 100,000+ miles we owned it. Our new Liberty, so far, seems even better. Not the best fuel mileage but a much sturdier SUV than similar sized SUVs from the competition. I think they're the best SUV on the market in their size and price range.
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Unread 08-15-2010, 07:34 AM   #58
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All of those news stories about Chrysler's 5-year plan contradict each other and can be confusing. They will simply introduce one new vehicle based on the Panda, replace the Patriot and Compass with one vehicle (never should have made two on one platform anyway) and may retain the Patriot name, and the good ole KK will just be up for a redesign for 2013, which gives the KK a normal 5-year life span. It will retain the name, but will be on a Fiat platform with new dimensions to better its aerodynamics. Jeep will also be in charge of the design, so hopefully they'll keep the boxy Jeep look and not go all round crossover on us!
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Unread 08-15-2010, 07:45 AM   #59
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Just picked up a 2010 Inferno Red Liberty Limited with Nav/Comfort package/Sky Slider. Traded in the Patriot. Looks good next to my 300C.
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Unread 08-15-2010, 09:18 AM   #60
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There's nothing on the market that compares to the Liberty......nothing. So, if you like the Liberty, by all means buy it. If not, you'll be happier if you buy something else. It's that simple.
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