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post #1 of 10 Old 04-28-2013, 01:31 PM Thread Starter
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What the F am I doing wrong? Park brake shoes replacement

Hi fellas, hopefully someone can help me because I am seriously scratching my head on this one.

The Jeep park brake didnít work when I got it, you could pull it all the way to the top with it only slightly braking the car. I grabbed some new shoes to fix this issue, put them in this morning but still no joy!

I inspected everything and it looks like it is all working OK, put them back in the same way I took them out but when I spin the wheel freely I can feel it grabbing a little. I went for a drive, pulled the handbrake and nothing happened, did it again and it tightned up nicely so the lever was only about half way up (automatic adjustment I guess). I left the manual adjusters on the wheels at the minimum amount but after a quick drive I could smell the brakes pretty bad. Wheel was relatively warm to touch also, seems like they are rubbing somehow.

The handbrake doesnít even slow the car down at the moment, I assume I just need to adjust the shoes via the manual adjustment but the way it is now I donít want to tighten them anymore!

Anyone have any idea where to start? Could they not be releasing fully or something like that?

Thanks for any help!

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post #2 of 10 Old 04-28-2013, 05:00 PM
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The parking brake is just that,a parking brake.Not designed to stop your KJ or keep your KJ still in gear and giving it some gas.Just aids in keeping the KJ in one spot to keep pressure off the trans.

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post #3 of 10 Old 04-29-2013, 02:30 PM Thread Starter
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Ok fair call, can live with that. Is it normal however for them to rub a bit when you put new pads in? So is it normal that I can smell burning brakes when I pull up?
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Ok fair call, can live with that. Is it normal however for them to rub a bit when you put new pads in? So is it normal that I can smell burning brakes when I pull up?
Guessing your using the old rotors? If so you need to have the inner hat were the parking brake shoes contact turned on a brake lathe.That area will get corroded and that can cause a uneven surface.

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post #5 of 10 Old 04-30-2013, 09:16 AM Thread Starter
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Guessing your using the old rotors? If so you need to have the inner hat were the parking brake shoes contact turned on a brake lathe.That area will get corroded and that can cause a uneven surface.
Yeah I did mate, OK that makes sense, thanks for that. Seems to have stopped making contact now so back to square 1 but at least it isnt dragging.
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post #6 of 10 Old 05-02-2013, 11:12 AM
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My KJ has 170,000 miles on it. After about the first 40k the parking brake wasn't really engaging and I tried to adjust it with no luck. I have since changed the pads and the rotor and spend a day adjusting them and still no luck. And when I say no luck I mean that with the jeep on a slight incline in neutral the parking brake will not hold the vehicle from rolling.

Its a shame b/c this has been the only real issue I have consistently had with this vehicle.
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post #7 of 10 Old 05-02-2013, 11:27 AM
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My KJ has 170,000 miles on it. After about the first 40k the parking brake wasn't really engaging and I tried to adjust it with no luck. I have since changed the pads and the rotor and spend a day adjusting them and still no luck. And when I say no luck I mean that with the jeep on a slight incline in neutral the parking brake will not hold the vehicle from rolling.

Its a shame b/c this has been the only real issue I have consistently had with this vehicle.
My parking brake holds my 6000lbs KJ on a 35 degree incline/decline with no problems.It's just your typical Ford Explorer rear disc brake setup which is the same size as the OE KJ rear disc brakes as far as the parking brake goes.

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post #8 of 10 Old 05-14-2013, 08:10 PM
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Parking Brake useless.

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The parking brake is just that,a parking brake.Not designed to stop your KJ or keep your KJ still in gear and giving it some gas.Just aids in keeping the KJ in one spot to keep pressure off the trans.
Sorry to disagree, but it fails NYS inspection with your logic. They have to be able to hold the car on a grade while in gear.
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post #9 of 10 Old 05-15-2013, 06:27 AM
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Sorry to disagree, but it fails NYS inspection with your logic. They have to be able to hold the car on a grade while in gear.
Read what I wrote again.

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Not designed to stop your KJ or keep your KJ still in gear and giving it some gas

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post #10 of 10 Old 05-17-2013, 07:30 PM
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I'm checking out my parking break tomorrow. I'm having the same issue, the hand break goes up with pressure but it will not hold the car in neutral on a small incline. I have new discs to put on. I'll check out the hand break assembly underneath, adjust it and see what happens.
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