Vehicle Malfunction Light.....

nschuchert · 02-23-2006, 12:56 AM

I took my Liberty in for the 6000 mile service last week, no problems until Monday. The vehicle malfunction light (orange rectangle) turned on and was still on today. So I called the dealer and was told to bring it and am doing so Friday morning. Now, on my way home from work tonight the light went off. I'm gonna call the dealer again tomorrow, but should I still bring it in if the light went off?

bbo · 02-23-2006, 06:21 PM

yep .. could be intermittent ... code will still be there ...

nschuchert · 02-23-2006, 11:17 PM

Well, I called the service department at the Jeep dealer today and told them it went away. According to the guy, if the light isn't on they can't figure if there is even a problem. He told me sometimes it's a computer glitch that causes it to go on or maybe the gas cap wasnt on tight enough he said. It went away last night and didnt go on at all today so he told me to just cancel the appointment. Hopefully it doesnt go on again.

nschuchert · 02-24-2006, 12:38 AM

I'm gonna bring it in anyway, regardless I won't have to pay anything because it's under warranty, and if there is something wrong I'd much rather have it get fixed now.

madmanfrommars · 02-24-2006, 06:28 AM

The computer keeps a record of why the check engine light has come on in I think the last month, so the dealer can see why it was on.

patentguy · 02-24-2006, 10:15 AM

I had a similar experience. My check engine/MIL light came on and I phoned the dealer to make an appointment. The night before the appointment, the light went off. I brought it in anyway. The CRD ran fine before, during and after this event.

They retrieved the fault code P0504. They said it related to my brake lights. They did a number of diagnostic tests, conversed back and forth with STAR, and found no problems.

Their conclusion was that the fault code/check engine light was tripped acccidentally.

nschuchert · 02-24-2006, 12:17 PM

I brought it in this morning even though the light was off. Something triggered it to go on and I'd much rather make sure there is nothing wrong. So it's at the dealer right now should be ready sometime this afternoon.

nschuchert · 02-24-2006, 06:03 PM

Just got home with the car. It was indeed a computer glitch and even though it went off last night, apparently it turned on again when they moved it from the parking lot into the garage to service it. So they reset the computer and told me it was most likely faulty programming on the onboard computer that caused the issue. I, of course paid nothing, but when they have you sign your vehicle out it shows the cost if it were to be paid for, would've been 225 bucks for the apparently 3 hours they worked on my car "testing it". Right.....I'm just glad everything is fine.

marlon_jbt · 02-24-2006, 06:24 PM

Computer glitch... right. That doesn't happen often... if the light comes on, something was up.

In any case, it probably WAS a loose gas cap. I bet they didn't even check the actual code that was thrown.

nschuchert · 02-24-2006, 10:19 PM

For some reason I think the service guy didn't tell me everything and the invoice isn't too detailed either.

Invoice says:
Customer states check engine light is on.

Cause: 211 Reprogrammed PCM
205 WP40

Fault P0573 0.8, Reprogram PCM per TSB 18-029-05

Anyone have a clue what that mumbo jumbo means?

marlon_jbt · 02-24-2006, 10:47 PM

Make : JEEP Model : LIBERTY Year : 2005
Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
Service Bulletin Num : 0802905 Date of Bulletin: JUN 10, 2005
NHTSA Item Number: 10015800
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Summary:
INTERMITTENT 4WD LAMP ILLUMINATION OR MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LAMP DUE TO DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE P0573 - BRAKE SWITCH #1 CIRCUIT HIGH. *TT

Well looks like they did check everything.

This is unusual... some dealers are really lazy. Looks like you have a decent one there.

76CherokeeChief · 02-25-2006, 09:25 PM

If your gas cap was loose the computer would have stored a code for a EVAP failure/problem. Sounds like they at least reprogrammed the computer.

nschuchert · 02-28-2006, 06:20 PM

Guess what? The same light came back on today, I was so pissed. I called the dealer and chewed out the guys in the service department. This will be the third time going there in less than three weeks, twice for the same problem. Putting miles on my car, wasting my gas all to get to a place that can't figure out how to fix the car they made. I can't miss any more work or class to get my car fixed so I'm gonna go after my morning class at 1 PM tomorrow. I told the guy he's got about three hours to fix my car or I'll be expecting a loaner car until it's fixed because I can't spend whole days at the car dealer for weeks straight. This is absolutely ridiculous, they really are morons.

patentguy · 03-02-2006, 10:15 AM

See the following TSB:

http://alldata.com/tsb/Chrysler/1129964400000_1130745600000_25-001-05A/11.html

buells1 · 04-10-2006, 10:37 PM

Is there a way to pull-up the service bulletins only the CRD?

02-24-2006, 06:28 AM	#5
madmanfrommars Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 647 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	The computer keeps a record of why the check engine light has come on in I think the last month, so the dealer can see why it was on. __________________ [URL=http://staff.filesnetwork.com/madman/jeep.jpg]RIP The Big Red Jeep. 1994-2005. 201,993 Miles.[/URL] [URL=http://staff.filesnetwork.com/madman/CIMG1846.JPG]Illuminating the Night[/URL] As far as I know, I'm the only person to own a flame red liberty with the light bar, and until someone disproves that to me, I'm going to enjoy it.

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02-23-2006, 06:21 PM	#2
bbo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 121 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	yep .. could be intermittent ... code will still be there ...

02-23-2006, 11:17 PM	#3
nschuchert Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 19 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	Well, I called the service department at the Jeep dealer today and told them it went away. According to the guy, if the light isn't on they can't figure if there is even a problem. He told me sometimes it's a computer glitch that causes it to go on or maybe the gas cap wasnt on tight enough he said. It went away last night and didnt go on at all today so he told me to just cancel the appointment. Hopefully it doesnt go on again.

02-24-2006, 12:38 AM	#4
nschuchert Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 19 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	I'm gonna bring it in anyway, regardless I won't have to pay anything because it's under warranty, and if there is something wrong I'd much rather have it get fixed now.

02-24-2006, 10:15 AM	#6
patentguy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 18 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	I had a similar experience. My check engine/MIL light came on and I phoned the dealer to make an appointment. The night before the appointment, the light went off. I brought it in anyway. The CRD ran fine before, during and after this event. They retrieved the fault code P0504. They said it related to my brake lights. They did a number of diagnostic tests, conversed back and forth with STAR, and found no problems. Their conclusion was that the fault code/check engine light was tripped acccidentally.

02-24-2006, 12:17 PM	#7
nschuchert Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 19 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	I brought it in this morning even though the light was off. Something triggered it to go on and I'd much rather make sure there is nothing wrong. So it's at the dealer right now should be ready sometime this afternoon.

02-24-2006, 06:03 PM	#8
nschuchert Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 19 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	Just got home with the car. It was indeed a computer glitch and even though it went off last night, apparently it turned on again when they moved it from the parking lot into the garage to service it. So they reset the computer and told me it was most likely faulty programming on the onboard computer that caused the issue. I, of course paid nothing, but when they have you sign your vehicle out it shows the cost if it were to be paid for, would've been 225 bucks for the apparently 3 hours they worked on my car "testing it". Right.....I'm just glad everything is fine.

02-24-2006, 10:19 PM	#10
nschuchert Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 19 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	For some reason I think the service guy didn't tell me everything and the invoice isn't too detailed either. Invoice says: Customer states check engine light is on. Cause: 211 Reprogrammed PCM 205 WP40 Fault P0573 0.8, Reprogram PCM per TSB 18-029-05 Anyone have a clue what that mumbo jumbo means?

02-25-2006, 09:25 PM	#12
76CherokeeChief Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: colorado Posts: 58 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	If your gas cap was loose the computer would have stored a code for a EVAP failure/problem. Sounds like they at least reprogrammed the computer.

02-28-2006, 06:20 PM	#13
nschuchert Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 19 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	Guess what? The same light came back on today, I was so pissed. I called the dealer and chewed out the guys in the service department. This will be the third time going there in less than three weeks, twice for the same problem. Putting miles on my car, wasting my gas all to get to a place that can't figure out how to fix the car they made. I can't miss any more work or class to get my car fixed so I'm gonna go after my morning class at 1 PM tomorrow. I told the guy he's got about three hours to fix my car or I'll be expecting a loaner car until it's fixed because I can't spend whole days at the car dealer for weeks straight. This is absolutely ridiculous, they really are morons.

03-02-2006, 10:15 AM	#14
patentguy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 18 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	See the following TSB: http://alldata.com/tsb/Chrysler/1129964400000_1130745600000_25-001-05A/11.html