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Unread 01-26-2007, 03:11 PM   #1
captain_ruggy
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My friends 2003 Renegade

I thought maybe some of you would be interested in how a Libby does in a fender bender. Here's the story. I was following my buddy to a jobsite. he was in his Libby and i was in a fullsize chevy G30 cargo van. On a snow covered interstate entrance ramp, we were going to merge with the traffic and he floors it. His Jeep goes sideways into a spin, I lock em up, and I smack him in the drivers side front. The libby had to be towed from the scene. it has some major suspension damage in the front. The drivers side wheel was pretty much, just hanging there. He also lost all his anti freeze. After pulling my front bumper out, I drove my van home, over an hour away. When we hit we were only doing about 20 mph, although after starting to slide it felt faster.

my van:


It pushed my fender in 5 and a half inches.






And the Liberty:










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Unread 01-26-2007, 03:16 PM   #2
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2 problems, flooring a rig of any kind on snow, and the person behind following to close for the conditions.
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Unread 01-26-2007, 03:32 PM   #3
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yeah, if he had it in 4wd he would never have turned it sideways. And honestly I was 2-3 car lenghts behind, There must have been ice under the snow because there was no way I would have stopped. Even in just snow, I would have had plenty of space to stop. I would have went around him but if i went into the next lane I would have gotten smacked by an 18 wheeler, so my choices were hit the jeep or die.
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Unread 01-26-2007, 06:30 PM   #4
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if it was an xj.....i choose 18 wheeler
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Unread 01-26-2007, 06:45 PM   #5
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Spoony ya must be crazy if you was in a XJ and Choose a 18 wheeler ya you been dead.... They have a mass of an house on wheels... They will tear just about any vehicle on the road up. I see where just a 18wheeler hit a 1 1/2 tonn F 450 4 door truck and totaled it badely those are big trucks.... I dont think a Unibody vehicle will with stand a hit by anything big 4 times its size.
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Unread 01-26-2007, 07:00 PM   #6
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yeah, my van is a beast, but a 18 wheeler would have killed it. The libby isn't getting totaled either. It's between 8 and 10 grand in damage to it.
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Unread 01-26-2007, 07:40 PM   #7
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haha yeah i know it would be instant death....i was just stating in sarcasm that i like xjs....ive actually been clipped by an 18 wheeler and its hurt bad haha..and it onlt ripped my bumper off
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Unread 01-26-2007, 11:10 PM   #8
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ouch, hope everyone is OK...
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Unread 01-27-2007, 06:52 AM   #9
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I would say you were going more then 20 mph with how far the G-vans fender is push back and the damage to the KJ or there was alot of ice under the snow.
My favorite snow story, when I still lived up in LI, NY and during the winter I would drive a plow truck for a private contractor for one of the local townships, we were going down the mainroad and someone in a S-10 pick up decided they were going to race up in front of us and we just buried the S-10 in snow, you could only see the roof of the S-10. Bottom line don't try and cut off a plow truck
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Unread 01-27-2007, 01:10 PM   #10
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I don't even think i was doing 20. But when i locked them up it felt like I went faster, and the ramp was a slight hill down to the interstate.

It pushed the vans fender in 5 1/2 inches. Slightly bent a brake line and the battery is very snug in there now. I used the van for work today, and other then looking like crap, it was fine. But I can't drive at night. I am going to get a different van but until I do, i have to use this one. I think I might fix it up and either keep it as a spare or sell it.
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4.0 HO, Auto, 4dr., NP231, 8.25 rear
6 inches of bastard pack lift, 35/12.5/R15's
Aux. fan switch, homemade BPE's
moved intake, OEM towhooks
Rear disc brakes, JKS disco's
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