I'm pretty much not happy with the traction on the stock Wrangler ST's. I went to a local Goodyear dealership to see about trading up. He suggested a few but no sizes were available except the Wrangler SR-A. He is going to give me $75 each credit on my ST's because of the low mileage. Question is will I see much difference in traction between the two?? I would really like to get some BFG AT's or Bridgestone Duelers, but I can't really afford the full price of new rubber right now. That is the only reason I am considering these. Unless it would be a worthless swap.
I am by no means a tire expert, but I drove a Liberty with SR-As for a couple of weeks prior to getting my current Liberty which just has the STs. There's definitely a difference in feel... the SR-As just feel "bigger" and perhaps just a little "rougher" and I think they bounce a little more. But all of that should be expected as they are all-terrain tires.
For what it's worth, I decided not to upgrade to the SR-As because a lot of people give them bad reviews. I figured, if I want to upgrade the tires later anyway, why pay the (approx $229) difference to get the SR-As which I may not even like? I'll probably stick with the STs for a while until I build up enough "political capital" with my wife and then get one of the other brands you've mentioned. People seem to like both of them a lot.
2005 Jeep Liberty Sport 4x4, Patriot Blue/Medium Slate Gray
3.7L V6, Auto, Package 28C, Tow Group, ABS, Selec-Trac, Trac-Lok
Husky Liners F/R, Mopar Cargo Tray, Cargo Cover, Tire Cover, etc.
I hope the st is not to bad, I had to go cheap and got mine black Friday weekend for $330 and free shipping, I do know on hard packed snow I was surprised how well they do, I don't remember my old Mickey Thompson mtx a/t's doing that good. if you want to see those mtx tires they are hard to find now and it usually goes to another model.
p.s. the wrangler st has some to do with size, I have been reading the reviews, I do know the 225/75r16 wrangler st has a better tread than the bigger sizes, the 225/75r16 has more space for water to escape from the tread while the others are not like that, all the bad reviews I have read are the bigger sizes which are not as good. I don't know why they are different but they are.
I have no love for the St's that came on the KJ's. Found them to be the worst tire experience ever, hydroplaned on only minimal rain. The silent armor GY's worked very well summer or winter, problems solved. Not the cheapest though. YMMV
__________________ 05 TJ RME 42RLE with some things 05 KJ CRD 545RFE, GDE Eco tune, Franky II, Al's 4.5 A-arms, JK Rubi Moabs, Silent Armors 245-70-17's, Spidertrax Adapters, Rola Basket, Fumoto Valve, Pinch welds pounded
FS or FT (2) JK Rubi 17" Moab Rims - really nice shape Need JK Rear Spare tire bracket for project
Has anyone had experience with the Firestone Destination AT? Are they US made? They seem to have good reviews on another site.
When I bought mine new in 2004 I swapped out the junk SRAs with Destination ATs. ten times better than tyhe stock tires actually did pretty good that first winter, didn't run them very long, ( less than a year) due to going bigger, and bigger and......
Would I run them again, more than likely not, better tires for what I use mine for out there
04 Liberty, Kilimanjaro Edition, Rock Lizard RockRails/Roof Rack/Front-Rear bumper,32 inch Goodyear Duratracs,Moabs,4.10s/ 4.25 inch JBA Coilover lift /other goodies
I've heard good thing about Cooper but never had a set. I'm still shopping for KJ tires too but have to get some soon. I've got the Firestone Destination ATs on my Ranger and they're okay. They look good to me and work well in most conditions except they seem a bit slippery in the rain. Of course the Ranger is a rather light pickup but I do have a couple hundred pounds of stuff in the back and still gets loose in the rain. Dry or dirt, mud or snow and they seem fine. Weird.
Guess I'd agree with Tom, probably wouldn't buy the Firestones again.
"Hey, ya never know til you try." Kurt Russell-Big Trouble in Little China
A decent cheap AT tire is the GT Adventuro AT3. I picked up 4 (245/75/16) off from the discount tire direct ebay page back in August for $308 (free shipping) They were $408 and had a $100 discount if I used PayPal.
I've ran them for around 8500 miles so far and they have been surprisingly good in all conditions. They have a touch of a Humm to them on wet pavement but are quiet on dry pavement. They do well in deep wet snow and held their own in light powdery snow. They claim to last 50k miles. Time will tell.