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Unread 07-13-2010, 04:27 PM   #1
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Liberty Lift Choice,,advice please

Hey ,
I am looking at a full suspension lift, as my Lib is just short of 200 k miles, I want to replace as much of the worn factory parts as possible with one kit (ball joints, struts/shocks, springs, etc).

I have narrowed it down to 2 different lifts, with a pretty big difference in price. price isnt as critical as off-road ability and ruggedness and completeness of the kit.

The lifts are the 3" Rockfather 2 (or Rockfather Deluxe) from Rocky Road
The BEST KJ Jeep Liberty lift on the market (or cherokee outside of the USA, 2002 and newer)
This seems to be my best option, offering more for the price.

The other is the 2.5" system from Rusty's Off-Road Rustys Offroad: KJ Liberty 2.5" Suspension Kit ('02-'06)

I would appreciate advice from those who have actually used either of these kits, how do they preform, how rugged in real off-road use ( I take mine camping & hunting in some very rough areas). I'd like running 245/75R16 tires or slightly bigger if possible.

Thanks, see ya on the trails,,,,

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Unread 07-13-2010, 05:57 PM   #2
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OK, was doing some more research, add the Frankenlift http://www.boulderbars.com/frankenlift.htm
to the proposed purchase list. How do these 3 stack up?
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Unread 07-13-2010, 06:43 PM   #3
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OK, was doing some more research, add the Frankenlift All J Products - Jeep Liberty KJ FRANKENLIFT
to the proposed purchase list. How do these 3 stack up?
The Frankinlift blows anything that RRO sells out of the water,AllJ's has 100% better customer service also.

Just erase RRO lifts from any list,it's just not worth it dealing with them,Rusty's coil lift uses OE rated coils and they sag fast.


1-Frankinlift
2-OME lift
3-any JBA lift-Jeep Liberty lift kits, Specializing in upper control arms & axle swaps
4-BDS lift(coil lift)
5-Daystar spacer lift










































10000000-Rusty's coil lift
10000001-any RRO lift
10000002-any OTT spacer lift
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Unread 07-13-2010, 07:14 PM   #4
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Pretty close to what I would of said
My first OME spring lift went 100,000 miles and now its on another KJ.
I installed ( under protest) a Rustys on another friends here in town. With less than 30,000 miles on it , yes it has sagged over 2 inches already and needing replaced
RRO is just bad to deal with
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Unread 07-13-2010, 08:16 PM   #5
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Thjanks for the input, especially regarding the quick sag-time of some systems. As I do 110 miles daily to & from work, and get it out camping & hunting at least 20 or so times a year, it sees mileage fast.
Will put serious consideration into the Frankenlift, this is the kind od advice I come here for,, not the "Well, this dude told me about his girlfriends cousins best friends beer brinking buddy who says.........." type of stuff.

With these kits will I have to hammer down the pinch-weld to clear 245-75R16's?
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Unread 07-13-2010, 08:39 PM   #6
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Pinch welds
Depends on wheel width, backspacing and type of tires, seem some that you had to, some you didn't. For most its one of those things like bumpstops, cheap insurance.
I've installed 16 Kj lifts along with helping with 4 or 5 more, All but 2 were either frankenlifts or OME with spacers etc. Everyone is happy with the OMEs
Rides good, handles well etc
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Unread 07-15-2010, 10:13 PM   #7
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Yep, the Frankenlift is the best. I put on the Frankenlift II setup and also installed Al's upper A Arms and replaced the lower ball joints with greasable Moog's. Next to opening up the exhaust, that was the best investment I made on my CRD. I regularly take the Libby off road, thru the fields and washouts on my farm and the Frankenlift performs great. My wife noticed better handling on the road right away... the Libby stayed more sure footed crossing rough railroad crossings at highway speeds.
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Unread 07-24-2010, 05:21 PM   #8
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OK, I ordered the FL2 deluxe as well as the upper A-arms from Al. I also ordered extended f+r stainless braided brake lines, Moog greasable lower ball joints, new tie rod ends, new sway bar bushings and am even considering new bushings for the rear sway bar and wishbone mounts, I want this to be basically a completely new suspension. I have a 3 day weekend next week, if my work schedule doesnt change, so I should have it all in following that.

As for wheels, I am runnign Rubicon Moab wheels (TJ type)currently with 230/70R16's, but will be switching up to 245/75R16's ( or slightly larger if I can manage) once they wear out.

Now all I have to do is stop the checkbook hemorhaging and then get back to working on my '80 CJ-5.
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