Jeep Liberty Unsafe?

CRD4Liberty · 03-20-2007, 01:31 PM

Lots of vehicles have the fuel tank in the same spot as the Libs, my 1975 Dodge van had a 38 gallon tank in the exact same position and it even wrapped under the lower frame rails.

Lashlarue · 03-20-2007, 01:36 PM

This $200,000 Lamborghini burst into flames in a one car accident when it left the road at an undetermined high rate of speed, the driver under the blue sheet was killed instantly.Here is the same car a few minutes before the accident.

rob92xj · 03-20-2007, 04:34 PM

Most famous car for bursting into flames after being rear ended....Ford Pinto.

Beacon · 03-20-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rob92xj

Most famous car for bursting into flames after being rear ended....Ford Pinto.

I think the Chevy pickups had a rather jaded history in that regard as well.

I don't think any of the new vehicles come even close to being that dangerous these days.

Thankfully.

rob92xj · 03-20-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Beacon

I think the Chevy pickups had a rather jaded history in that regard as well.

I don't think any of the new vehicles come even close to being that dangerous these days.

Thankfully.

Nope they are much safer, if you were to look under a WK or XK there is a huge lower bulkhead that stops the rear axle from going into the fuel tank.

x99j · 03-21-2007, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidCCTX

These are a few results from google, i searched: jeep liberty fuel tank fire

http://forums.automotive.com/70/6228262/jeep/jeep-liberty-fuel-tank-fires/index.html

http://forums.off-road.com/jeep-liberty-kj/223278-jeep-liberty-2004-warning.html

http://www.riccilaw.com/FSL5CS/Breaking%20News/Breaking%20News114.asp

ok the third link doesn't even count because it is about a grand cherokee.
as for the first two links there is no verification to the story or the facts, and their is no news story link to even prove they happened.

third point is when you google jeep liberty fires their is not a wealth of information on the subject. and nothing is backed up by facts from a reputable news source. such, if you would google toyota head gasket recall their is a wealth of information on the subject! why? because their really was a problem! the two links you provided are somebodys "wet finger in the air

" about what happened.

also the two links you provided (that apply to this topic) are posted by users in forums that have only one post! their is a reason the liberty is # one in sales in its class, and almost a million on the road!

lastly your first story, that started this whole thread, has nothing to do with fuel tank fires or rear end collisions. it has to do with a head on collision on a highway. even that story is vague about the facts and the result of the fire investigation. or even if their was reason for a fire investigation. mike

DavidCCTX · 03-21-2007, 09:13 AM

I agree that the details of all the stories are sketchy at best, I am just trying to see if you guys had heard of any other similiar stories as the safety of my wife (and myself) is important to me.

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Originally Posted by x99j

ok the third link doesn't even count because it is about a grand cherokee.
as for the first two links there is no verification to the story or the facts, and their is no news story link to even prove they happened.

third point is when you google jeep liberty fires their is not a wealth of information on the subject. and nothing is backed up by facts from a reputable news source. such, if you would google toyota head gasket recall their is a wealth of information on the subject! why? because their really was a problem! the two links you provided are somebodys "wet finger in the air

" about what happened.

also the two links you provided (that apply to this topic) are posted by users in forums that have only one post! their is a reason the liberty is # one in sales in its class, and almost a million on the road!

lastly your first story, that started this whole thread, has nothing to do with fuel tank fires or rear end collisions. it has to do with a head on collision on a highway. even that story is vague about the facts and the result of the fire investigation. or even if their was reason for a fire investigation. mike

TJJIM79 · 03-21-2007, 05:22 PM

I think that everybody here is telling you that it is just as safe as any other vehicle, if not safer. So go buy a Liberty already....LOL....just remember in most cases it isn't you that you should worry about, it is the other *****hole$ on the road.

Lashlarue · 03-21-2007, 06:14 PM

I put the photos of the Lamborghini in my post for one purpose. There is no make of car that hasn't crashed and burned, to intimate that a particular brand is unsafe because of one or even several accident reports is ludicrous beyond belief.The 2002 Liberty rolled over in a test when first introduced, no one was able to duplicate that accident but Jeep took it seriously enough to lower the suspension 3/4" to make such an event even more unlikely.PersonallyI think a test driver was just covering his *** for his poor driving skills or simply not following the procedure for the slalom test.http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2001/11/21/liberty-roll.htm...

rob92xj · 03-22-2007, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lashlarue

I put the photos of the Lamborghini in my post for one purpose. There is no make of car that hasn't crashed and burned, to intimate that a particular brand is unsafe because of one or even several accident reports is ludicrous beyond belief.The 2002 Liberty rolled over in a test when first introduced, no one was able to duplicate that accident but Jeep took it seriously enough to lower the suspension 3/4" to make such an event even more unlikely.PersonallyI think a test driver was just covering his *** for his poor driving skills or simply not following the procedure for the slalom test.http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2001/11/21/liberty-roll.htm...

The 02 Libery when tested was forced to roll over the normal speed through the sloum course is about 30-35mpg the KJ was pushed to speeds over 50mph they did the same thing years ago with the Isuzu Trooper 2 and the Suzuki Samauri. But DCX chose to lower the KJ in late 02 models to make them happy(which they were not).

As far as safety the KJ is a very safe vehicle I wouldn't worry about my wife with it as I don't worry about her in it when she is traveling with out me or I'm away at the training center or wheeling.

naturist · 03-22-2007, 08:09 AM

well, another Silverado/Libby crash happend just a couple miles up the road from my house. The guy driving the Silverado ran a stop sign at a high rate of speed and was killed, the Libby driver survived, though seriously injured. No fire.

BVCRD · 03-22-2007, 08:31 AM

With the amount of testing that has to take place by law today, just about any car is safe, unless extreme circumstances come into play. The early model Mustangs and Pintos are a thing of the past.

rob92xj · 03-23-2007, 03:34 AM

The day of spray foam on impact is coming like in Judge Dred.

Fiasco · 04-12-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rob92xj

The day of spray foam on impact is coming like in Judge Dred.

Demolition Man?

peje · 04-12-2007, 10:10 PM

I agree with some opinions addressed here that in high speed any vehicle hit on the rear can burst into flames. That is why now with the new legistation on car safety they have to move the gas tank 5 feet from the rear bumber, positioning of gas tank would be somewhere just under the rear passengers seats.

03-22-2007, 08:31 AM	#27
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03-20-2007, 01:36 PM	#17
Lashlarue Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Spring Tx Posts: 14 Profile Gallery Classifieds iTrader Rating	This $200,000 Lamborghini burst into flames in a one car accident when it left the road at an undetermined high rate of speed, the driver under the blue sheet was killed instantly.Here is the same car a few minutes before the accident.

03-21-2007, 06:14 PM	#24
Lashlarue Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Spring Tx Posts: 14 Profile Gallery Classifieds iTrader Rating	I put the photos of the Lamborghini in my post for one purpose. There is no make of car that hasn't crashed and burned, to intimate that a particular brand is unsafe because of one or even several accident reports is ludicrous beyond belief.The 2002 Liberty rolled over in a test when first introduced, no one was able to duplicate that accident but Jeep took it seriously enough to lower the suspension 3/4" to make such an event even more unlikely.PersonallyI think a test driver was just covering his *** for his poor driving skills or simply not following the procedure for the slalom test.http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2001/11/21/liberty-roll.htm...

03-22-2007, 08:09 AM	#26
naturist Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: podunk, IA Posts: 178 Profile Gallery Classifieds iTrader Rating	well, another Silverado/Libby crash happend just a couple miles up the road from my house. The guy driving the Silverado ran a stop sign at a high rate of speed and was killed, the Libby driver survived, though seriously injured. No fire.

04-12-2007, 10:10 PM	#30
peje Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 125 Profile Gallery Classifieds iTrader Rating	I agree with some opinions addressed here that in high speed any vehicle hit on the rear can burst into flames. That is why now with the new legistation on car safety they have to move the gas tank 5 feet from the rear bumber, positioning of gas tank would be somewhere just under the rear passengers seats.