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post #1 of 15 Old 09-19-2009, 09:34 AM Thread Starter
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I have a 05 liberty CRD with a no start condition

I have a 2005 liberty 2.8 CRD it doesn't want to start it has no DTC's. Fuel is good clean and no air in lines no matter what I do I can't get it started

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post #2 of 15 Old 09-19-2009, 11:37 AM
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Does it crank?
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yes cranks fine just doesn't start
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The ECU is looking for signals from the crank position sensor and cam position sensor before it fires. If it doesn't see them - no fire. Could be a bad sensor.
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replaced cam sensor, checked resistance of wires, 5volt ref, ground,and signal wires are good, checked my powers and grounds at ECU and no problems found
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crank sensor reads fine on scanner
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post #7 of 15 Old 09-19-2009, 04:59 PM
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does your scanner read fuel pressure? if it's not getting over 1000 psi the ecu will not pulse the injectors.

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post #8 of 15 Old 10-17-2009, 02:20 PM
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I have the same problem with my 02 liberty
I have no fuel pressure and it will not start
the starter turns the motor fast though

is there something I can do

Is the check engine light supposed to come on for a moment with key on before you start the motor?
the cel never comes on at all right now though
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post #9 of 15 Old 11-13-2013, 10:09 AM
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i have a 2005 crd diesel and she has no power and blowing black smoke put her on code reader and a lot of codes came up that dont make scene anyone have this problem before
that can help
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post #10 of 15 Old 01-06-2014, 09:22 AM
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i have a 2003 crd swapped motor to 05 not the ecu but not starting any help on this. The ecu is stil of the 03 just extended the crank sensors wiris not getting signal to injectors
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i have a 2003 crd swapped motor to 05 not the ecu but not starting any help on this. The ecu is stil of the 03 just extended the crank sensors wiris not getting signal to injectors
How can you use a 2003 ECU on a 2005 engine?

There are major differences including the fact that the 2003 has a fixed vane Turbo and the 2005 has a variable vane turbo, 2003 has 12 volt glow plugs and no control from ECU while the 2005 has 7 volt (standard) glow plugs with a seperate glow plug controller.

2003 CRD , Export obviously, use a PCI bus for communications while 2005 uses a CAN bus mainly with only some PCI usage.

2003 CRD has the Alternator charge rate monitored and set by the ECU...2005/6/7 alternator has a built-in regulator.

The EGR is worked differently, 2003 does not have a Flow Control Valve, 2005 has an airflow sensor on the air intake.

Fuel delivery rates will be different etc.

Yes the engine in theory may start and run badly but there are so many sensors around on this engine doing various checks that I would only consider putting a 2005 CRD engine into a 2003 chassis if I could replace the ECU, TCM (if fitted) and complete wiring harness at the same time.

I think I have just answered your question for you


All of you guys having problems here on this post with your CRDs...I would suggest you go to the "CRD Liberty Love the Torque" section at:

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum

All the experts are there!

2002 2.5 Export CRD Manual 5 speed.
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Also the most common problem with the CRD engine turning over but not starting is air in the fuel at the filter head.

Also try swap over the ASD relay with an identical one next to it or jumper pins 30 and 87 together inside the ASD Relay socket and see what happens.

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i have a 2005 crd diesel and she has no power and blowing black smoke put her on code reader and a lot of codes came up that dont make scene anyone have this problem before
that can help
Holy dead thread resurection Batman!

If you are still having this problem then it is probably your CAC rubber hoses going to the Intercooler and back that have splits in them.

Best to replace with SAMCO Silicone hoses.

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How can you use a 2003 ECU on a 2005 engine?

There are major differences including the fact that the 2003 has a fixed vane Turbo and the 2005 has a variable vane turbo, 2003 has 12 volt glow plugs and no control from ECU while the 2005 has 7 volt (standard) glow plugs with a seperate glow plug controller.

2003 CRD , Export obviously, use a PCI bus for communications while 2005 uses a CAN bus mainly with only some PCI usage.

2003 CRD has the Alternator charge rate monitored and set by the ECU...2005/6/7 alternator has a built-in regulator.

The EGR is worked differently, 2003 does not have a Flow Control Valve, 2005 has an airflow sensor on the air intake.

Fuel delivery rates will be different etc.

Yes the engine in theory may start and run badly but there are so many sensors around on this engine doing various checks that I would only consider putting a 2005 CRD engine into a 2003 chassis if I could replace the ECU, TCM (if fitted) and complete wiring harness at the same time.

I think I have just answered your question for you


All of you guys having problems here on this post with your CRDs...I would suggest you go to the "CRD Liberty Love the Torque" section at:

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum

All the experts are there!
HI Billwill please contact me with your experts as i'm stuck with this problem0837851559
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HI Billwill please contact me with your experts as i'm stuck with this problem0837851559
Sorry Giffie, I make no claim to be an expert....that is why I recommended that you go to the "Liberty CRD Love The Torque" section at:

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum

If they cannot help you then you may as well give up!

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