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Unread 03-28-2014, 03:40 PM   #1
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Front right wheel started to rub suddenly when in reverse with wheel fully turned.

Pulling out of a parking space, I turned the the wheel all the way and there was a load rubbing. It wasn't making the sound 15 min before. I looked and it looks like the front tire is about half an inch from the fender liner when straight on both sides I don't remember them ever being that close. You can see rub marks on the inside of the fender liner. The marks are on the inside near the bottom of the liner and sheet metal. The tires are 235/70-16. I have never heard this and the marks are new.

Basically it looks like the front was lowered. The ride is really rough and it feels like both front and back are bottoming out. This is totally a new issue. I decided to start driving it more. It was fine all day and then this happend. It's fine going straight or reverse as long as the wheel isn't turned. The right side is worse or at least that's where it's loudest but both sides rub.

I've broken springs before on vehicles but the vehicle had no cushion to it. Is it possible the struts blew? Looking around briefly, I don't see anything obvious wrong.

Last 2 pics are left side, others are right side.

So, any ideas?

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Unread 03-28-2014, 03:44 PM   #2
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Unread 03-28-2014, 03:48 PM   #3
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Unread 03-28-2014, 03:50 PM   #4
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Unread 03-28-2014, 03:54 PM   #5
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Unread 03-28-2014, 08:02 PM   #6
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I just measured the height and it's still 19" on both sides (give or take 1/8") so apparently it didn't drop. Hmmm.......
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Something let go. Ball joint, control arm bushing/bolt. A broken spring would only effect the height. A shock will only effect ride, not alignment geometry.
Pull the tire and then get some pics.
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Can someone give me the measurements from the center of wheel to the bottom of the flare and the same the back on the same wheel? Than I can figure out how much it may have moved. I'll pull the wheel as soon as I can.
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Unread 04-07-2014, 10:30 PM   #9
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Ok. I got a chance to check it out. I think it's the lca bushings. Ball joints look good. I took some pics. Do they look bad?

Here's the right side rear of the front lca:
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Here's the front of the right lca:
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The bushings look fine. The right side front cam bolt looks maxed out to the forward position however. I would suggest an alignment shop (if you pryed the crap out of the ball joints, with Jeep setting on the ground). A decent shop will find the fault. The cam bolts can move if not torqued correctly.
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Can someone give me the measurements from the center of wheel to the bottom of the flare and the same the back on the same wheel? Than I can figure out how much it may have moved. I'll pull the wheel as soon as I can.
Depends on how much the suspension has sagged, each will be different due to that. New it would of been around 19 inches ( middle of the wheel to flare measured straight up)
Measurements front to back again will be different depending on sag
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If I put a pry bar between the mount and the arm bushing I can get the arm to move some. Just a little, not much and this is with the truck in the air and wheel off. Can't tell if its the arm moving on the bushing or of the bushing moved too. When you look at the frame mount you can see marks from the bushings, it's a perfect imprint. You can see it in the pics. Does that mean they are moving or is that normal?

I'll be getting it in for an alignment check as suggested.
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