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Unread 03-01-2010, 12:33 PM   #1
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CRD Timing belt replacement

For CRD owners nearing the 100,000mile point and looking to tackle the timing belt replacement themselves, we have a link to a file with instructions.

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/1729...m-1-8-meg?da=y

We will also rent out the special tools required to complete the job. The job can be tackled in an afternoon.

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Unread 03-01-2010, 01:03 PM   #2
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Very nice. Thanks for the link guys. Have you tackled one - in vehicle yet? If a "how to" sticky gets started in the KJ section, this should be in there for sure.
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Unread 04-19-2010, 09:15 PM   #3
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Where to get timing belt?

Where can I get the timing belt? Mine's been running like a top 100 mi/day. Just realized at 135k, I should probably do the timing belt, among other neglected periodic maintenance. Had my local mechanic turn down the job cause of special tools and availability of parts....
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Unread 04-19-2010, 09:53 PM   #4
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Mopar parts from a dealer or one of the online discount mopar parts places. Quite a few parts to do it, not just the belt alone for the job. but you probably already knew that.

That would be a really bad day if the belt went, possible death to your VM would be pretty spendy.
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Unread 04-20-2010, 05:55 AM   #5
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Well, I'm just researching all this. Like printing out those directions above. What other parts? I was intending to get someone to do the belt and the water pump (as long as the engine is apart) who won't double charge me for the labor time that is common to both jobs. The rediculous quote from the dealer has me thinking they were just quoting based on book ties for both jobs. Otherwise I may have to take a weekend and do it myself.

Know of any places in the Orlando/Daytona Beach area that specialize in the jeep/ VM diesel engine?
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Unread 04-20-2010, 06:25 AM   #6
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This is just a cut and paste from another forum on parts list for "Timing Belt" change.

5142579AA - Timing belt - $133.09
5142798AA - Tensioner - $72.54
5142573AA - Idler pulley (2) - $99.10
5066921AA - Timing cover Gasket - $11.88
5159019AA - Water pump O-ring #2 - $3.96
4864575 - Water pump Gasket - $2.25
5142601AA - Thermostat - $93.49
5066806AA - Thermostat gasket - $1.76
5142985AA - Water pump - $153.99
Sub Total $572.06


Hope this is of some help.
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Unread 04-20-2010, 06:30 AM   #7
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Hell yeah it is! (helpful) I appreciate you helping with the research.
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Unread 04-20-2010, 06:47 AM   #8
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Not a problem johng. Things like this (helping other Jeepers) is what JF is all about !
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Unread 04-20-2010, 11:52 PM   #9
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Where can I get the timing belt? Mine's been running like a top 100 mi/day. Just realized at 135k, I should probably do the timing belt, among other neglected periodic maintenance. Had my local mechanic turn down the job cause of special tools and availability of parts....
mine broke at 62000 miles total cost 1500 total head rebuild broke every valve and follower,i would be changing it as soon as !
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Unread 04-21-2010, 12:19 AM   #10
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Where can I get the timing belt? Mine's been running like a top 100 mi/day. Just realized at 135k, I should probably do the timing belt, among other neglected periodic maintenance. Had my local mechanic turn down the job cause of special tools and availability of parts....
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Give George or Lorraine from VM Diesel in the UK
a go.Their email address is
Info@VMDieselSpecialist.co.uk
Received my parts within five days from placing the order. $329.00 Aussie dollars including postage.They supplied Timing Belt, Tensioner, Two seals and two Pulleys.
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Unread 04-29-2010, 08:50 AM   #11
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The 05 is in the for timing belt change today. Found that an import car specialist is more willing (that is, just plain willing) to dig into the diesel motor. The other guys that I tried to have look at the car were like "VM Mo-whatti?". The above instructions helped the mech get a feel for the job. Not doing it myself is more a matter of available time than ability. Those directions seem crystal clear.

After that, I'll be doing the GDE ECU swap - I mean I have the ECU in hand and ready to go. Then I will be cleaning the MAP sensor for the first time ever. That ought to be interesting. Or maybe I should do that next. Then the ECU. And the EHM.

What's ORM stand for?

Anyway, thanks again for the helps.
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Unread 04-29-2010, 02:51 PM   #12
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The ORM term is for disconnecting the sensor on the airbox to disable the EGR - (Off Road Mod) as it was meant to be for off road only . But it unfortunately leaves you with the check engine light on continuously with no way of knowing when there could be real trouble with the the motor.

Doing the GDE tune you will not have to even look at the ORM thing.

Glad to hear you located a tech to do your timing belt. Could've been real ugly if that had let go.

You should post up a pic of what your MAP looks like when you pull it.
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Unread 04-29-2010, 04:00 PM   #13
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OK, thanks on the ORM.

A little frustrated because I called the shop on Tuesday to ask the mechanic to check on the parts availability. He blew me off cause he was 'slammed'. Well I called at 4 oclock, and sure enough - couldn't get all the parts same day. Having them UPS'd in for tomorrow.

I guess 2 days off line is better than a blown motor. He better not keep it the weekend though.
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Unread 04-29-2010, 04:52 PM   #14
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mine broke at 62000 miles total cost 1500 total head rebuild broke every valve and follower,i would be changing it as soon as !
Not likely, The engine is designed to brake the followers only. You don't even have to remove the head just cam cover.
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Unread 05-06-2010, 09:34 PM   #15
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OK, got the new timing belt, water pump, accesory belt on at the shop. Turns out it took so long because the parts house boxed the parts Thursday and then didn't see to it that they actualy got on the UPS truck until I called them myself on Monday. Ended up not having the car for a full week.

Tonite I put the GDE eco ECU in the car and cleaned the MAP. The MAP was not as blobbish as some I've seen on line, but it was chock-full. Blasted it with carb cleaner and worked it with an old paint brush. The first test drive revealed a much, much crisper throttle response.

I would recommend just pulling the battery completely out of the vehicle to change the ECU. It's just two more nuts to loosen, and gives a lot clearer access. But the directions on the GDE web site are otherwise fine.
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