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Unread 02-08-2008, 05:33 PM   #1
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CRD MPG and Towing Capacity

CRD'ers,

I did a search and found that the CRD fuel mileage was not so great.
What is your experience?
How well does the CRD liberty tow?
how heavy do you pull?

R

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Unread 02-08-2008, 11:00 PM   #2
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It wasn't the Consumer Reports article was it? They forgot to take the return line off and return it to their measured fuel supply so over 50% was going back to the fuel tank. Bozos.
We get between 28 and 24 mpg on the highway depending on your configuration, lift, tires and how fast your haulling it down the road.
ou save at least 1 mpg if your on the cruise control usually.
I tow my jetsled all the time and stuff like loaded 2 horse trailer and 6X12 utility trailers with firewood, hay, etc.
Even pulling over the Cascade Mts on the worst passes, under bad traffic conditions, I've never gotten less than 14 mpg. This by the way is 3 mpg better than Consumer Reports got in their unladen testing.
It's rated for 5,000 lbs here in the US and 6,250 I think in the UK and Australia. Has the same tranny that behind the hemi trucks, mine's benn flawless.
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Unread 02-08-2008, 11:17 PM   #3
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We get 23-26 in town, nearly 30 on the highway. Never towed with the KJ.
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Unread 02-09-2008, 04:27 PM   #4
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CRD tows like a champ from what I hear. Just remember youre towing with a short wheel base Jeep so dont be towing huge travel trailers or anything.

Make sure you use the proper towing setup. IE, WD and anti sway.
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Unread 02-11-2008, 06:55 AM   #5
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Mate... getting around the same 24 -25 mpg here in OZ.... top fuel economy from a 2.8 CRD
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Unread 02-11-2008, 12:07 PM   #6
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I've gotten as high as 30 on the highway, but usually short trips and around town I average around 25. I just towed a 3500 lb travel trailer (NOT a pop-up, full height all the time) through the mountains and got about 13, but that was entirely with overdrive off due to the terrain. I will take the same trailer 400 miles this coming week, and should be able to leave overdrive on for that trip, thus expect better mileage.
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Unread 02-12-2008, 01:36 PM   #7
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CRD'ers,

I did a search and found that the CRD fuel mileage was not so great.
What is your experience?
How well does the CRD liberty tow?
how heavy do you pull?

R
Not sure where you looked for info, but what you found certainly doesn't square with my experience. We purchased a 2005 Liberty Limited CRD new in late 2005 and have now driven it more than 50,000 miles. We've enjoyed the car and found it capable of everything we've asked of it.

It got a best of 33mpg between Seattle and San Francisco, driving 70-75 mph ... and on B99 Biodiesel. Our most recent Washington to California trip got a two-way average of 27 mpg. Normally, we can expect about 30 mpg on that route. Not sure why mileage is down, but it may be related to having to use low-sulfur diesel, instead of bio. I believe low-sulfur fuel is costing significant fuel mileage.

Our Jeep has the heavy duty trailer towing package. I pulled a 16' car hauler trailer and Alfa Romeo from San Jose to Washington State and got 20 mpg. That's a 1,000-mile journey. The only change that would have made the trip more pleasant would have been the addition of an equalizer hitch. I didn't know about such things at the time.

Now that I have an equalizer hitch and anti-sway bar, I tow the Alfa easily up hill and down. I also tow a 6400-pound Ford tractor & trailer combo, but let's keep that our secret. That's more than the car is rated for. To be sure, I would not tow the tractor a long distance. But I only do short trips because I'm concerned about being able to stop quickly from highway speeds should that become necessary. The Jeep has more than enough power to pull the weight easily. (Note added May 2008: My car hauler does have electric brakes on one axle and a break-away switch.)

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Unread 02-12-2008, 09:41 PM   #8
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Not sure where you looked for info, but what you found certainly doesn't square with my experience. We purchased a 2005 Liberty Limited CRD new in late 2005 and have now driven it more than 50,000 miles. We've enjoyed the car and found it capable of everything we've asked of it.

It got a best of 33mpg between Seattle and San Francisco, driving 70-75 mph ... and on B99 Biodiesel. Our most recent Washington to California trip got a two-way average of 27 mpg. Normally, we can expect about 30 mpg on that route. Not sure why mileage is down, but it may be related to having to use low-sulfur diesel, instead of bio. I believe low-sulfur fuel is costing significant fuel mileage.

Our Jeep has the heavy duty trailer towing package. I pulled a 16' car hauler trailer and Alfa Romeo from San Jose to Washington State and got 20 mpg. That's a 1,000-mile journey. The only change that would have made the trip more pleasant would have been the addition of an equalizer hitch. I didn't know about such things at the time.

Now that I have an equalizer hitch and anti-sway bar, I tow the Alfa easily up hill and down. I also tow a 6400-pound Ford tractor, but let's keep that our secret. That's more than the car is rated for. To be sure, I would not tow the tractor a long distance. But I only do short trips because I'm concerned about being able to stop quickly from highway speeds should that become necessary. The Jeep has more than enough power to pull the weight easily.
Washougal,

Thanks for your comments.
I hope you have trailer brakes with a battery and break away switch. It is surprising what one can do with limited resources, thought and care.
Yes, our secret. Other countries have the tow rating higher I hear.

R
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Unread 02-13-2008, 01:34 PM   #9
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I have a 2005 CRD with 25,000 miles on it. I have never hauled anything, but I get between 20-21 mpg doing all city/stop and go driving. The two times I had it on the highway, the mileage jumped to 28-29 mpg. I love my car and just hope to keep it a very long time with no problems.
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Unread 02-14-2008, 10:15 AM   #10
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We get 25-26. Still costs $60+ to fill up, though.
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Unread 02-14-2008, 02:13 PM   #11
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i was going to post a similar thread as i am disappointed with my MPG
but after reading the above it seems mine's 'normal'

i use it mainly for work (9 miles a day)
so it gets 2 cold starts and isn't really warm by the time i reach my destination , it averages 16.5 with this use

recently i did a 200 mile trip and i reset the MPG and it managed 28 which i was really peed off about but looking at the above i realise maybe it isn't too bad.

mind you diesel over here is probably double what you lot pay
£1.10 a litre , approx $2 per litre . just cost me £60 to fill it up
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Unread 02-17-2008, 03:54 PM   #12
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I don't have a CRD, but instead have a base 2004 Liberty Sport 4x4 Auto 3.7L V6 with Tow Package. I tow a 1992 Bayliner 1950 Capri Cuddy on Escort trailer. Having never weighted the package, but know it is within towing capacity, I estimate weight between 3300 and 3800 lbs.

I recall reading in places that at one time the Liberty was rated at 4500 lbs towing, but now magically is 5000 lbs. I'm not sure how that happened because I'm pretty sure there have been no significant changes that account for the added capacity.

I mostly tow short distances (<20 miles), but once towed over 100 miles. The Liberty was just fine on the long trip.

Some things I've noticed:
- Towing slow (<=60) with this setup is key.
- Don't waste your time trying to maintain speed on really steep hills, though I would guess the diesel does better here.
- As noted handling can be odd due to the short wheel base. Perhaps a sway bar would help.
- Lock out overdrive when towing, unless on a downgrade or on the flat.
- You will need an extra long ball mount due to the tailgate mounted spare tire getting in your way.
- Wish I had a trailer with trailer brakes, so leave lots of space between you and traffic ahead. Good advice anyway.
- Side view mirror extension would be nice, but I have yet to find anything that will be easy to use.
- There is much debate on service interval of front and rear differentials. Get ready for a surprise on fluid cost as the front is synthetic and rear conventional oil. Most agrees to switch rear to synthetic. You'll need 4-5 qts for both diffs @ $15/qt for a painful change of $60-75, if you do it yourself. Ouch! Dealers charge $100-200 for the service. Double-ouch! Worse yet, the debated change intervals range from 15K to 30K. If you tow a lot I'd be on the conservative side.

Some things I'd recommend:
- 4x4 is a must on those slick boat ramps. Go with the base 4x4 (Command-Trac) system, unless you're a serious off-roader, or really need an all wheel drive system.
- I'm paranoid and keep my towing package below 4000 lbs so I have a safety margin when full of gas, gear, etc. Plus as noticed I am skeptical of the true towing capacity.
- Get the Towing package. It includes tranny cooler and 5 wire rear wiring connector for separate actuating of trailer brakes and I think even backup lights.
- Trailer brakes on anything you tow are nice to have.

My wife drives ours most of the time - she gets the new cars, and she really likes it. Aside from cheap chrome plated lug nuts I have no complaints about this vehicle. We have relatively low miles (30K) and had a leaking water pump replaced under warranty. Otherwise we really like ours and are please with the decision.

If you live in a state where you can get the diesel that may be worth a look. There seems to be a love-hate relationships with them so maybe the added problems may not be worth the extra initial cost and subsequent fuel savings. Your call.
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Unread 02-28-2009, 12:47 PM   #13
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CRD'ers,

I did a search and found that the CRD fuel mileage was not so great.
What is your experience?
How well does the CRD liberty tow?
how heavy do you pull?

R
I average about 20/22 mpg in eveyday use i live in a rural area so includes some town work not nery good really but better than the petrol i think can get about 35 on a run in the uk
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Unread 03-02-2009, 01:52 PM   #14
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We pull 24-26.

Tows very well, but keep an eye on the Revs, and the OD. You don't want to hurt the tranny. I haven't had any braking problems, but I've kept it slow the one time I had 4k+ back there and no trailer brakes.
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Unread 03-02-2009, 03:10 PM   #15
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I average 26 MPG so far with my 2.8 CRD.
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