2nd Oil Change..and Axle Fliud Change?

rmnoonan · 08-18-2006, 01:16 PM

Liberty gurus,

I just dropped off my Liberty Sport CRD to the dealer for the 12,000 mile servicing. I usually get the oil changed, rotate tires, etc. But this time the manual says we should get the axle fliud drained and refilled. IS THIS NECESSARY? IT IS EXPENSIVE!!

pbrutsch · 08-18-2006, 02:10 PM

Yes to both, it's about $ 400.

It's neither a Jeep nor a CRD thing, a 4x4 Toyota with a gas engine will need the same

jeepjeepster · 08-18-2006, 02:34 PM

This depends on alot of stuff. Do you tow, offroad, do alot of hard accelerations? If so, then yes, they need to be changed. If not, then I would say its ok to wait till 24k or even 30k if you cannot put down the cash right now.

BVCRD · 08-18-2006, 02:54 PM

I'll be doing mine myself.

jeepjeepster · 08-18-2006, 04:47 PM

I also do mine myself, but everyone cant do that...

rrubio · 08-18-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeepjeepster

I also do mine myself, but everyone cant do that...

We all should be doing our own.This way you really know what you put in there,synthetic all the way.

jeepjeepster · 08-18-2006, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrubio

We all should be doing our own.This way you really know what you put in there,synthetic all the way.

Yup, SYN is what I used!!

Cowpie1 · 08-18-2006, 10:22 PM

The Libby is such a sweet vehicle to work on, most owners could do these things themselves and save a bundle! At about 1500 miles, I changed out both differentials, transfer case, tranny, and engine oils and went synthetics throughout.

To avoid the RTV mess with the rear end, get the Chrsyler 8.25 gasket from

www.lubelocker.com

I did the entire job for one hell of a lot cheaper than the dealer would charge. It is suprisingly easy to work on the Libby. Only the tranny may be too complicated for some. For that, a good tranny shop will usually be less than a dealer. For everything else, do it yourself. I have not experienced a better vehicle to work on since my '79 Ford Bronco.

RFCRD · 08-19-2006, 02:02 AM

This is no more difficult than changing engine oil. Did everything at the same time for @ $260. This included using all synthetics and a pricey aftermarket rear diff cover with a real drain so I won't have to pull the cover next time. The lubelocker gasket is a good economical alternative. If you are willing to get dirty, do it yourself.

dthorpe · 08-20-2006, 09:13 AM

My manual states that the first axle fluid change is to be done at 15,000 miles, not 12,000. Your dealer is wanting to change it too early. At the hefty price of $400, I would stick with what the manual says!

x99j · 08-20-2006, 02:13 PM

i do it myself for the cost of the lube! and it is simple. if you try it it will be worth it.

dthorpe · 08-20-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by x99j

i do it myself for the cost of the lube! and it is simple. if you try it it will be worth it.

How is it done?

x99j · 08-21-2006, 07:04 AM

i got a transer pump from any auto parts store to pump the back out, and then refill. the front has a hex drain plug to drain the front with. you can get her done in an hour. just make sure on the front you crack the fill plug loose first.

i think the transfer pump was like 15 dollars. just make sure it will pump thick gear lube.

RFCRD · 08-21-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dthorpe

How is it done?

Everything except the rear axle has both drain and fill holes. Rear axle requires either removing the rear cover and re-gluing (or installing a cut gasket) or using a suction pump inserted through the fill hole. My presonal preference is removing the cover on the first change so you can clean the break-in cuttings from the magnet on the bottom of the casting. Really not any more difficult than a basic oil change.

rob92xj · 08-21-2006, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowpie1

The Libby is such a sweet vehicle to work on, most owners could do these things themselves and save a bundle! At about 1500 miles, I changed out both differentials, transfer case, tranny, and engine oils and went synthetics throughout.

To avoid the RTV mess with the rear end, get the Chrsyler 8.25 gasket from

www.lubelocker.com

I did the entire job for one hell of a lot cheaper than the dealer would charge. It is suprisingly easy to work on the Libby. Only the tranny may be too complicated for some. For that, a good tranny shop will usually be less than a dealer. For everything else, do it yourself. I have not experienced a better vehicle to work on since my '79 Ford Bronco.

Your Liberty was built with synthetic gear lube in the diffs. Sythetic gear oil is the recommended lube for the diffs and it should be changed @12-15000 miles or about once a year. 75W140 front and rear.

08-18-2006, 02:10 PM	#2
pbrutsch Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 351 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	Yes to both, it's about $ 400. It's neither a Jeep nor a CRD thing, a 4x4 Toyota with a gas engine will need the same __________________ [SIZE=1][b][i]Real[/i][/b] Jeeps don't need no stinkin' spark plugs![/SIZE]

08-18-2006, 02:54 PM	#4
BVCRD Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buena Vista, Colorado Posts: 1,510 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	I'll be doing mine myself. __________________ 2006 Jeep Liberty Sport CRD

08-20-2006, 02:13 PM	#11
x99j Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 420 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	i do it myself for the cost of the lube! and it is simple. if you try it it will be worth it. __________________ 99xj, 4.0, aw4, nv 231 d-30, 8.25. dessert sand pearl. former rent a car from Enterprise. great shape! 06 kj 3.7l, 6speed manual, np241 command track 91 yj 2.5l, ax-5, np 231 3 inck lift, 31'' mud rovers

08-21-2006, 07:04 AM	#13
x99j Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 420 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	i got a transer pump from any auto parts store to pump the back out, and then refill. the front has a hex drain plug to drain the front with. you can get her done in an hour. just make sure on the front you crack the fill plug loose first. i think the transfer pump was like 15 dollars. just make sure it will pump thick gear lube. __________________ 99xj, 4.0, aw4, nv 231 d-30, 8.25. dessert sand pearl. former rent a car from Enterprise. great shape! 06 kj 3.7l, 6speed manual, np241 command track 91 yj 2.5l, ax-5, np 231 3 inck lift, 31'' mud rovers

08-18-2006, 02:34 PM	#3
jeepjeepster Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,511 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	This depends on alot of stuff. Do you tow, offroad, do alot of hard accelerations? If so, then yes, they need to be changed. If not, then I would say its ok to wait till 24k or even 30k if you cannot put down the cash right now.

08-18-2006, 04:47 PM	#5
jeepjeepster Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,511 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	I also do mine myself, but everyone cant do that...

08-18-2006, 10:22 PM	#8
Cowpie1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kellogg, IA Posts: 37 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	The Libby is such a sweet vehicle to work on, most owners could do these things themselves and save a bundle! At about 1500 miles, I changed out both differentials, transfer case, tranny, and engine oils and went synthetics throughout. To avoid the RTV mess with the rear end, get the Chrsyler 8.25 gasket from www.lubelocker.com I did the entire job for one hell of a lot cheaper than the dealer would charge. It is suprisingly easy to work on the Libby. Only the tranny may be too complicated for some. For that, a good tranny shop will usually be less than a dealer. For everything else, do it yourself. I have not experienced a better vehicle to work on since my '79 Ford Bronco.

08-19-2006, 02:02 AM	#9
RFCRD Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 460 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	This is no more difficult than changing engine oil. Did everything at the same time for @ $260. This included using all synthetics and a pricey aftermarket rear diff cover with a real drain so I won't have to pull the cover next time. The lubelocker gasket is a good economical alternative. If you are willing to get dirty, do it yourself.

08-20-2006, 09:13 AM	#10
dthorpe Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 29 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	My manual states that the first axle fluid change is to be done at 15,000 miles, not 12,000. Your dealer is wanting to change it too early. At the hefty price of $400, I would stick with what the manual says!