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Unread 10-07-2013, 05:44 PM   #16
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In this case a bad selenoid could cause what the op is describing because according to the wiring diagram the selenoids have both positive and negitive battery leads going to them. Both selenoids are in the crkt whether the winch motor is spooling in or out. So if one of the selenoids had a short it could cause the problem described.
I went back and glanced at the wiring diagram. It appears to be for a common DC two post motor. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a Ramsey guy, but I've never messed with a bidirectional winch that wasn't a 3 post motor (in other words, unless the OP has a 2 post electric motor, he needs to find a diagram for a three post).

On a 3 post motor, if a DPDT solenoid (2 solenoid setup) fails "off" on one of the solenoids, you'll have nothing in one direction and it will still work in the other. If it fails "on" on one of the solenoids, it'll be running when it should be doing nothing (I hope the OP would have mentioned this).

To test your motor:

Disconnect the power lead for the winch from the battery and put the winch in freespool.
Get a set of jumper cables and either a piece of wire (8 ga as a bare minimum) or a long insulated screwdriver (if you use this be very, very careful). The wire or screwdriver will be used as a jumper.
Place the cables on the battery like normal.
Place the negative lead to a ground point on the motor (bolts on the end of the motor should work).
Place the positive lead on the "A" post (the posts should be marked, but the "A" post is the one off by itself).
Run the jumper (the wire or screwdriver) from the "A" post to either "F1" or "F2" (Field posts 1 & 2 respectively).

If the motor works on one of them, try the other. If it doesn't work on one or both, recheck your ground. If it's grounding properly, your motor is hosed. If it's working OK, then you either have a solenoid problem, or a ground problem to your case.

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Unread 10-07-2013, 06:07 PM   #17
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I was just going by the schematic. According to the schematic provided (I don't know if it is the correct one for the op's winch) there are no field winding terminals. So it would be a permenant magnet 2 terminal motor (armature posts A1 and A2 and no F terminals)
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Unread 10-07-2013, 06:19 PM   #18
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If you put the winch in free spool can you turn the drum by hand in both directions freely? If not then you might have a mechanical problem.
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Unread 10-07-2013, 07:57 PM   #19
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I was just going by the schematic. According to the schematic provided (I don't know if it is the correct one for the op's winch) there are no field winding terminals. So it would be a permenant magnet 2 terminal motor (armature posts A1 and A2 and no F terminals)
Yep... I can read a diagram, hence what I said above. As I said before, I'm not an expert on Ramsey winches; however, if every other bidirectional winch is any indication, the OP has a three post.
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Unread 10-08-2013, 04:07 PM   #20
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I have that same winch on my equipment trailer. I will sometimes have to play with the connection where the controller plugs into. Yes, it will only do it on one direction (can't remember which one at the moment) but with a little tension it works fine. Think it may be the pin connectors need spreading apart. Not a bad winch and has served me well for the last 10 years. Good luck, Dave.
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Unread 10-09-2013, 06:48 AM   #21
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Yep... I can read a diagram, hence what I said above. As I said before, I'm not an expert on Ramsey winches; however, if every other bidirectional winch is any indication, the OP has a three post.
It is a two post motor. This is Ramsey's budget model.
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Unread 10-09-2013, 08:07 AM   #22
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It is a two post motor. This is Ramsey's budget model.
Wow... I offer my most humble apologies. I've honestly never seen one like that (I figured that it would be like my brother's 8k Ramsey).

Once you determine the problem, please post about it. You definitely have my attention now.
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Unread 10-10-2013, 07:02 AM   #23
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Wow... I offer my most humble apologies. I've honestly never seen one like that (I figured that it would be like my brother's 8k Ramsey).

Once you determine the problem, please post about it. You definitely have my attention now.
I believe Ramsey sold the REP8000 both ways. I have seen them with three wire motors as well.
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Unread 10-21-2013, 08:42 AM   #24
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Finally had some time to work on it again last weekend. The problem was something pretty stupid that I didn't notice. The connection on back of the motor that goes to the solenoid box was shorted against the motor body. The terminal connector had spun around and was bent against the body of the motor itself. Fixed that and now it works!
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Unread 10-21-2013, 12:03 PM   #25
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Finally had some time to work on it again last weekend. The problem was something pretty stupid that I didn't notice. The connection on back of the motor that goes to the solenoid box was shorted against the motor body. The terminal connector had spun around and was bent against the body of the motor itself. Fixed that and now it works!
All good! Glad to hear it's working again.
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