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Unread 01-04-2014, 08:36 AM   #1
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Video demo: Dragline Offroad's SynthShackle HD for cold recoveries - feat. Bubba Rope

I cannot say enough positive things about the soft shackles Dragline Offroad created for me. I've already written a lot in their vendor thread, like ease of use and quick deployment but enough talk, let us see these things in action!


Yes that's right, it was -40 with wind chill when that was filmed.


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Unread 01-04-2014, 08:46 AM   #2
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Pretty sweet idea.
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It's just a piece of poly propolyne with a monkey fist and a loop on one end, your local marine supply store can make you this for less than what a company like Bubba Rope will sell it to you. And I see no benefit at all other than ease of use since you still have a shackle on your hitch. What is the design factor of that sling though? You mention it is rated for 30,000lbs, is that the minimum breaking strength or safe working load limit? Crosby alloyed shackles have a design factor of 5:1 and a 3/4" bow shackle has a safe WLL of 7 tons. Multiple that by 5 and minimum breaking strength is over 70,000lbs.
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And I see no benefit at all other than ease of use since you still have a shackle on your hitch.
Ease of use is the point. Seldom are we in ideal recovery conditions. I dealt with crazy cold in the video, then there are deep water scenarios where gear disappears, or the need to connect multiple lines together (winch line plus extension(s) or many recovery straps). You've obviously have never had a seized shackle, dropped equipment into a bog, or sought out safer alternatives to traditional gear. Use some imagination, these things are far more useful than heavy metal shackles.

Yes, upgrading my recovery point is high on the to-do list.
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Unread 01-04-2014, 09:20 AM   #5
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Multiple that by 5 and minimum breaking strength is over 70,000lbs.
Well if you deploy a SynthShackle HD in basket weave configuration and you've got a minimum breaking strength of 68,600 lbf. Not bad for a super lightweight piece of rope with a knot in it?

I'll defer other specifics about the product to the vendor. Hope you enjoyed the amateur video, thank you for watching us freeze out butts off!
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Well if you deploy a SynthShackle HD in basket weave configuration and you've got a minimum breaking strength of 68,600 lbf. Not bad for a super lightweight piece of rope with a knot in it?

I'll defer other specifics about the product to the vendor. Hope you enjoyed the amateur video, thank you for watching us freeze out butts off!
That is true, I could see benefit of rigging multiple slings together with this rope though. Since a shackle would be your strongest component it would more than likely be on the end of a broken sling if it were in the middle of a line.
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Skip to 2:20 to watch quick removal from a truck's D - ring

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ancientspear,

Thank you so much for the review! Your videos highlight almost all the outstanding features of our products. We are happy that they are serving their purpose well, being used for what they were built for and saving your hands from the cold.
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You are welcome.

If any of you have 10 or so minutes to burn webwheeling, I put the SynthShackles HD through a grueling winter wheeling torture test. Each one was probably used 20+ times in one outing. The video is longer but the last 8 minutes is quite boring. I am posting it because the shackles are shown in use and being deployed in most of the recoveries. The snow conditions were harsh, our Mars like winter gave us crust could driven on with lots of momentum and wheel-speed but once you sink it was like course sugar granules. NO traction. Even sleds were getting lost in 3+ feet of snow. Think I am exaggerating, check out the 4Runner on tons and 7.13 gears that got stuck at the bottom of a hill requiring ~300' of recovery gear to get up.

Ease of use, some people have trouble figuring out how they work but others take one look and look like champs. I even film myself using them by holding my camera in my mouth while I deploy them.
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Loving how you're beating on the shackles. Keep it up. Looking forward to more updates!
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What was the PSi you guys aired down to? Some of those rigs look like they were still running 30+psi.
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You're right. The majority probably stayed at highway pressure 30+ out of laziness or being new to wheeling. I've had one real bad experience taking my stock Rubicon wheels and BFG MT tires to 12psi so I aired down to 20 and I think they cooled down or settled at 16. In all honesty they did fantastic that day and turned one former "replace stock Rubicon tires ASAP" guy's head to the point where he said he was very impressed with how I got around with them. In my old rig I was notorious for rocking 6-12 PSI with Load range C Duratracs on stock WJ rims but I never broke or unseated a bead with them in all sorts of terrain, unlike in my stock JKUR. A few trailer queens that day were probably in the single digits but when it's -25 outside, only the committed and self-reliant are willing to air down.
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That's the only downside to BFG's they seem to not like staying on the wheel. I've broken a bead on my KM2's many times before just playing around in the mud.
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LOL yup after 1 day on the trail unseating 3 beads, after peeling one tire off the rim, and taking 20 minutes to air up every 30 minutes driving home I learned to set my deflators to 20psi. Too bad the BFG's are like that when airing down, I've been real impressed with them otherwise.
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