Troubleshooting Warn winches - FAQ - Page 2

CNY · 04-03-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Group_er

Just wondering why you replaced your thrust washer?....

It was recommended by the warranty repair shop guy. There didn't seem to be anything wrong with the one that came out, though.

Could you do this thread a favor and go back and edit your post, removing the quoted part? Makes the thread too picture-heavy. Thanks!

Chasebo · 08-06-2010, 06:40 AM

I have a warn 9.5 ti, last night i was trying to get my cable out and when i hooked up the hand controls drum would not spin, i fliped the clutch leaver to open then to locked and nothing still. It would spin the gears or it made the noise like it was in both positions but would not loosen up the cord. I keep it hooked to my bumper on my jeep so the hook is stuck untill i have enough slack to get it loose. I could pull the cable out with a tie down so it is not locked up or anything but now i cant get it to roll back up eather. Any suggestions on where to start loooking for the problem. Thanks

dagoober · 08-10-2010, 12:31 AM

well since i just found this and have been having a problem with my 8274 i thought i would post here. i recently bought a used 8274 and rebuilt it. when i took it apart one of the motor brushes looked like it was cracked. i fiddled with it a bit and it fell apart. so does anyone know where i can get a new brush for the motor?

thanks.

**Jerry Bransford** · 08-10-2010, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dagoober

so does anyone know where i can get a new brush for the motor?

Uh, is there some reason you don't want to just order it from Warn?

dagoober · 08-10-2010, 04:36 AM

i just thought that warn would be a bit more expensive then other places. i did a google searh for warn 8274 motor brushed and it dident really come up with anything useful. im thinking of taking the whole motor to a motor repair place here and having him check over the whole thing and refurb it for 40$. im just wondering how much just the brushes alone go for.

**Jerry Bransford** · 08-10-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dagoober

i just thought that warn would be a bit more expensive then other places. i did a google searh for warn 8274 motor brushed and it dident really come up with anything useful. im thinking of taking the whole motor to a motor repair place here and having him check over the whole thing and refurb it for 40$. im just wondering how much just the brushes alone go for.

You've spent far more time wondering and asking about what Warn's price would be than it would have taken to simply call them and ask. Besides, a motor brush isn't going to cost enough to worry about.

Chasebo · 08-25-2010, 01:15 PM

Having a little trouble trying to figure out why the drum will not turn. I took the winc apart this afternoon. Cleaned all the gears, when had the drum off i used the control to turn the drum in and out. The gears inside the left drum support turned both directions, I then put the drum back on keeping the right support off and tryed it again, the moter engages but it does not turn the drum. It seems to me that the drum is locked up? Maybe im not real sure first time i have messed with one of these. Does anyone have a suggestion?

Mokos · 09-20-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chasebo

I have a warn 9.5 ti, last night i was trying to get my cable out and when i hooked up the hand controls drum would not spin, i fliped the clutch leaver to open then to locked and nothing still. It would spin the gears or it made the noise like it was in both positions but would not loosen up the cord. I keep it hooked to my bumper on my jeep so the hook is stuck untill i have enough slack to get it loose. I could pull the cable out with a tie down so it is not locked up or anything but now i cant get it to roll back up eather. Any suggestions on where to start loooking for the problem. Thanks

Hey there,
any luck figuring out the issue? I'm having exactly the same issue with my 9.5ti. Haven't taken it apart yet, but will in a day or so. If you haven't fixed it yet, I can give you an update on what I find.

Chasebo · 09-24-2010, 08:14 AM

Mokos,

I took mine apart and found that the carrier assembly stage 1 part 19 if you look at the parts digram had broke. I called warn and they suggested that i make sure the break was not seased up to becasue that can cause the carrier assembly to break. The carrier assembly is about 60 dollars, i bout all new seals and gaskets. Just a side note, knock your break out, be very careful not to break one of the pads if they are still good. I though i had put mine back in the drum good and was moving the drum and it fell out and broke one of the pads....warn does not sell just the pads you have to buy a hole new assembly **** its about 160 for the break assembly and all i need is one little piece. It is a very easy to take it apart and put back together. Good Luck!

Mokos · 09-25-2010, 04:51 AM

Thanks. That is super helpful. I feel more confident about tearing it apart now that I know what to look for.

Mokos · 09-29-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chasebo

Mokos,

I took mine apart and found that the carrier assembly stage 1 part 19 if you look at the parts digram had broke. I called warn and they suggested that i make sure the break was not seased up to becasue that can cause the carrier assembly to break. The carrier assembly is about 60 dollars, i bout all new seals and gaskets. Just a side note, knock your break out, be very careful not to break one of the pads if they are still good. I though i had put mine back in the drum good and was moving the drum and it fell out and broke one of the pads....warn does not sell just the pads you have to buy a hole new assembly **** its about 160 for the break assembly and all i need is one little piece. It is a very easy to take it apart and put back together. Good Luck!

Hey Chasebo,
Thanks again for your help. I took my winch apart and found that the break appeared to be seized to the drum and I looked at the stage 1 carrier assembly which "appears" to be fine. Trying to figure this out- tell me if my thinking is right here: the motor's small gear joins in the center of the 3 gears in the stage 1 carrier. protruding from the stage 1 carrier is another gear that goes into part 16. part 16 goes over the brake assembly which appears to turn the drive shaft. the small gear that protrudes from the stage 1 carrier spins freely and independent of the gear frame and other gears. this seems like it would prevent the motor from turning the drive shaft, right? Curious if part 19 is in fact broken and if that's what was wrong with yours?

Chasebo · 09-30-2010, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mokos

Hey Chasebo,
Thanks again for your help. I took my winch apart and found that the break appeared to be seized to the drum and I looked at the stage 1 carrier assembly which "appears" to be fine. Trying to figure this out- tell me if my thinking is right here: the motor's small gear joins in the center of the 3 gears in the stage 1 carrier. protruding from the stage 1 carrier is another gear that goes into part 16. part 16 goes over the brake assembly which appears to turn the drive shaft. the small gear that protrudes from the stage 1 carrier spins freely and independent of the gear frame and other gears. this seems like it would prevent the motor from turning the drive shaft, right? Curious if part 19 is in fact broken and if that's what was wrong with yours?

Mokos, it sounds like your stage 1 carrier is broke the gear that part 16 fits over on the carrier assembly should not spin freely from the gear frame, This is what broke on mine as well. Here is how i found that mine was broke, if you can hook up your power, take part 16 stick it over the carrier assembly gear, if you hit the power and can hold on to part 16 with out it leaving your hand then stage 1 carrier assembly is broke. Hope this helps!

Mokos · 10-01-2010, 06:27 AM

When I talked to Warn they said I had to send in my brake assembly for repair since it won't turn in the drum and that it wasn't something I can do myself but it sounds like you fixed your break on your own as well?

Chasebo · 10-01-2010, 02:40 PM

Did you take the break and shaft out of the drum? How hard was it for you to get it out? I took mine out and thats when i broke on of the pads. Im interested to see how they will fix yours cause they will not sell me one break pad. I have to buy the hole break assembly.

Mokos · 10-02-2010, 06:36 AM

Well, when I spoke with one of the authorized repair guys they said once u take the brake out u can't put it backin yourself due to the way it's preloaded or something. But apparently putting in a new brake is something i can easily do myself. So rather than pay them to do it, they are sending me a new brake (along with stage 1). The thing is... I can't get the brake out. It is so jammed in there that I am worried I'll bend the driveshaft from hammering. How did u get yours out? I tried spraying it heavily with brake cleaner but it didn't help. I didn't want to use a lube on the braking surface for fear of the new brake not holding later.