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post #1 of 17 Old 01-25-2014, 03:14 PM Thread Starter
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Transfer Case vs Axle Lockers

I'm on another forum, and this is driving me nutz the general conclusion there is that going from 2.7 to 1 transfer case to 4 to 1 transfer case is better than installing a locker in the rear axle. I feel like I'm going crazy arguing for the locker.


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post #2 of 17 Old 01-25-2014, 03:18 PM
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I'm on another forum, and this is driving me nutz the general conclusion there is that going from 2.7 to 1 transfer case to 4 to 1 transfer case is better than installing a locker in the rear axle. I feel like I'm going crazy arguing for the locker.
If it was the same price I'd rather have the 4.1 in my XJ.......... Sorry.

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If it was the same price I'd rather have the 4.1 in my XJ.......... Sorry.
I need to rephrase it, which will get you further down the trail.

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post #4 of 17 Old 01-25-2014, 03:25 PM
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Lockers IMO. 4:1 tcase will do a lot, but two wheels biting with an ultra low tcase isn't going to go as far as 3 wheels or 4 wheels biting with 2.7:1
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Lockers IMO. 4:1 tcase will do a lot, but two wheels biting with an ultra low tcase isn't going to go as far as 3 wheels or 4 wheels biting with 2.7:1
My thinking exactly.

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post #6 of 17 Old 01-25-2014, 05:53 PM
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Lockers by a mile!

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post #7 of 17 Old 01-26-2014, 10:04 AM
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lockers!

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post #8 of 17 Old 01-26-2014, 10:25 AM
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Just common sense; locker.
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post #9 of 17 Old 01-26-2014, 11:13 AM
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locker. no doubt about it.

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post #10 of 17 Old 01-27-2014, 08:11 AM
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lockers, without traction you will spin regardless of your gearing. With traction you can move forward. I suppose in high traction steep angles the gearing may have its advantage.

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post #11 of 17 Old 01-27-2014, 08:45 AM
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Lockers.. I don't carre how low you gear. Without traction you are not going anyplace..

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post #12 of 17 Old 01-28-2014, 07:59 PM
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+1 for lockers

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post #13 of 17 Old 01-28-2014, 09:05 PM
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Winch, gears, locker in that order as to which to get first. A winch will help get you not dead in the middle of nowhere. Gears will help you get to the middle of nowhere easier and a locker will help the middle of nowhere move into the real middle of nowhere. If you lock first and get waaaay out there and stuck, you're really in a bad spot.

Gears alone wont get you an inch further regardless of the ratio. Once youre spinning two, you will be just as stuck with a bazillion to 1 ratio as you would be with a 2 to 1.

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post #14 of 17 Old 01-30-2014, 04:31 PM
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x2 on locker, especially for the rear first. Oddly, after I installed the klune V under drive giving netting about 200:1, with sufficient articulation, ARBs are not used as much as before. Lower gears really slow down the action and offers more reaction time in the rocks. I do not care for the 4:1 swaps since you then have all or nothing. Oftentimes, that silly factory low range gear set is nice for cruising back roads, etc. The separate under drive allows retention of unmolested D300 and several more trail gearing options depending on the terrain.

which will get you further? rear locker, but then it might get you too far, LOL. Good luck

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post #15 of 17 Old 01-30-2014, 08:16 PM
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I would tend to agree with the locker first but I have not seen the other side of the argument articulated. Generally a build progresses with gears/lockers/TC.

I started ARB in the back, moved to lunch box in the front, and finally Atlas (2.0/2.72/5.44). Soon I will be converting to ARB front/rear and when I do I will try out wheeling in 5.44 and not locking the axles to see what happens.

Here on a Arizona trails a two speed transfer case that is 4.0 would drive you nuts. The slow speed of 4.0 would be a pain on the mild 'trail hills'.

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