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Unread 05-06-2011, 08:50 AM   #16
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Coming from Masterpull, that's fine, but I wouldn't buy something branded as Amsteel or Dyneema coming from some random company on ebay.

Masterpull, Viking, Custom Splice and other rope vendors are on this forum and others that are more than willing to make great deals for forum members.


About that ebay link: Check out the thimble on both pics. One has the stainless and the other is a tube thimble. I'm definitely going with the tube thimble for strength. I've also heard the stainless thimbles can get crushed and fall out if you run into something, and that tube thimble isn't going anywhere unless the line breaks.

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Unread 05-06-2011, 09:14 AM   #17
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I would consider getting the safty thimble... but my metalcloak bumper has a built in fairlead and i dont think it would pair well. I was thinking about a hook, are the removable ones good?

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Unread 05-06-2011, 10:31 AM   #18
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also, per custom splice's site, 100' of steel is good for 85' of 3/8ths synthetic. Any thoughts? Im guessing it would be safer to stick to 80'... this is all based on the M8000 btw
https://www.customsplice.com/conversiontable.html
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Unread 05-06-2011, 11:45 AM   #19
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I would consider getting the safty thimble... but my metalcloak bumper has a built in fairlead and i dont think it would pair well. I was thinking about a hook, are the removable ones good?

What incompatability could there be with safety thimble and your fairlead? The idea of the design of the thimble is that the base is big enough to stop it being pulled through any fairlead. I run mine on a hawse but have seen them on rollers also. I must be missing something as to what the potential issue is.
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also, per custom splice's site, 100' of steel is good for 85' of 3/8ths synthetic. Any thoughts? Im guessing it would be safer to stick to 80'... this is all based on the M8000 btw
https://www.customsplice.com/conversiontable.html
You could get 85'. 80'-85' is not much of a difference. If you think about it, that 5' and probably 10' or more will most likely be out when using the winch (you never winch all the way in) so it's not going to be an issue. I just don't know if an additional 15-20' (like 100' of 3/8") would fit well on the M8000. You risk it filling up the winch to quickly when you do need to winch up close to whatever you're hooked too.
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Unread 05-06-2011, 01:02 PM   #21
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What incompatability could there be with safety thimble and your fairlead? The idea of the design of the thimble is that the base is big enough to stop it being pulled through any fairlead. I run mine on a hawse but have seen them on rollers also. I must be missing something as to what the potential issue is.


Its not a traditional fairlead, so if I spooled it up against it, the front bumper is on a slant, it wouldnt just butt up against it.

i know, im probubly thinkin to far into this.. lol

I guess the best thing is the safety thimble, with a removable hook...
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Unread 05-06-2011, 01:32 PM   #22
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Its not a traditional fairlead, so if I spooled it up against it, the front bumper is on a slant, it wouldnt just butt up against it.

i know, im probubly thinkin to far into this.. lol

I guess the best thing is the safety thimble, with a removable hook...
Seems to me there is enough give in the synthetic line that line would just bend a little and the thimble would butt up against the fairlead on the slant.

You don't put any hook in the safety thimble. Just use it like it is. If the vehicle you are recovering has hooks the thimble just fits of the hook. If you are connect to a d-ring (either on a vehicle or on a tree saver if pulling yourself out) just put the d-ring through the safety thimble. That's another part of the idea of the design is to minimize the number of connections in a recovery rigging so as to minimize potential failure points.
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X2 on the Safety Thimble recommendation, I don't miss a hook in the least. I keep a shackle through my Safety Thimble which works well for pretty much every winching situation I get into.
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so what happens when you run into a tow point that is closed, and you have a closed safety thimble? Do you just link the two points with an extra D-ring?
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I really like the orange line myself, since it's my favorite color. Everything on my Jeep is black or white, so a bright orange winch line would really stand out haha. Everyone has the blue, its so played out
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so what happens when you run into a tow point that is closed, and you have a closed safety thimble?
As mentioned several (!) times above and as you can see in my above photo in post #2, you simply use a shackle (aka D-ring).
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looks like im gettin the safety thimble then lol
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I have that fairlead on my Metalcloak bumper and have a safety thimble and I don't have any problems. It did scratch the paint a little but I'm not too worried about that.
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I've been quite happy with the Viking 80' 3/8ths on an M8000. I don't use it as much as alot of hard-core jeep guys do, but when I do use it I never run into any problems. So far the rope seems to be alot more durable than I had initially thought.
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Another M8000 w 80' of 3/8" Viking line here. I carry a 50' extension of 5/16 line, just in case. It's never left the bag.
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