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Unread 08-26-2001, 04:18 PM   #1
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super 35 kit vs.axle swap

i've seen the super 35 kits that take care of one weakness of the d35.an axle truss takes care of the other.what are the advantages to an axle swap vs beefing up the d35(c clip)?is it even worth the trouble?any input would be very helpful.

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Unread 08-26-2001, 06:08 PM   #2
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I had the same problem. I wanted to have a stronger axle than the D35c. If you add up the cost of an axle swap vs. a Super 35 kit it comes out pretty close.
Super 35 Kit:
kit-$900
installed-$200

New Axle:
D44-@$250
ford 8.8-$600 (depending on the gears)
Locker- D44 $400
ford 8.8 $450
new mounting hardwear: $100
for the ford 8.8 you'll need a flange to join the axle and the driveshaft.

I ended up going with the 8.8 I just figured it would be better, it has a stonger housing, and 31 spline axle shafts. You just have to decided which one you want to do. http://members.home.com/rough-riders...8/ford8_8.html
here is a website that might help
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Unread 08-26-2001, 07:30 PM   #3
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well,here is my next dumb question.how about making the d35 a full float style axle with an axle truss?this should upgrade the weak axle shafts.shouldn't it?
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Unread 08-26-2001, 08:43 PM   #4
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Your stock D35c is a semi-floater, where the outer end of the axle shaft actually supports the weight of the truck as well as turns the wheel. With a full-floater, the actual axle shaft rides inside the axle tube on bearings, and the outer hub and inner diff carrier are both supported by the axle housing and not the axle shaft. this allows the axle to hold no weight and the stress on the axle shaft comes only from twisting and spinning the wheel and not from holding the weight of the truck. The truss supports the axle housing and acts as a skid plate almost.
The only problem is that this only eliminate some of the problems with the D35c. You still have the small R&P and axle shafts, carrier and housing. Also with the axle truss you lose some ground clearance. Just some more info for you.
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Unread 08-26-2001, 10:12 PM   #5
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i've been eyeballin' the ford 8.8 for a possible swap,but i'm afraid that if my rotten luck holds up,that i'll wind up building a new 8.8 piece by piece. one quick question, is the bolt pattern the same on the 8.8 as a stock jeep?(just bought new rims)
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Unread 08-26-2001, 10:39 PM   #6
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Yes the 8.8 has the same bolt pattern as the stock axles. You need to look for a 95 or newer from an explorer. Just make sure that you inspect the gears at the junkyard. look for chips, teeth missing etc. You can look on the jeepsunlimited board for an 8.8. some people have them for sale.
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thanks for all your help.one more question,what is a good price for a 8.8?
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Unread 08-27-2001, 12:10 AM   #8
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I got mine for $530. It came with 4.10 gears. I also found some for around $400 with 3.55 or smaller. Also another advantage of the 8.8 is you get disc brakes.
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Unread 08-27-2001, 06:54 PM   #9
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I've been very happy with my super35 kit. With the exception of one thing. You can't get spares!!! Superior will not split up the "kit". I called Drivetrail Direct and they basically laughed when I asked for a spare. So I called Superior. They said that since the super 35 was a kit that they would not split it up. When I pushed a little more, they said they would check into it more and call back. They never did. Just a little FYI.
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Unread 08-27-2001, 07:48 PM   #10
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i can do the work myself if it is just swapping axle shafts.i don't have a fabricating shop(yet).i plan on keeping my four squirrels on parade till they die
decisions,decisions...
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Unread 08-27-2001, 11:56 PM   #11
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You probably will have to take the axle shafts to a machine shop, because I believe the bearings and the seal need to be pressed on. It shouldn't cost very much for them to do this.
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Unread 08-28-2001, 06:56 PM   #12
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i,m still kinda hung up between axle swap and the super 35 kit.there are many pros and cons for each.if i had to choose right now,i'm kinda leaning toward the super 35 kit.call me crazy,but all the bigger eng. it will ever get is a 6.i just can't see breaking stuff every, weekend i play.(every other is my average for now! )
thankyou everybody for all your valuable input.
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Unread 08-29-2001, 10:15 AM   #13
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I also am in the same boat youare. Deciding on which upgrade to do. I was directed to a on-line junkyard and found a place that sells 8.8's for around $200 complete!! It made the decision so much easier!!!. Here is the link:http://junkyarddog.com/main.htm
Good luck with your whatever decision you make!
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Unread 08-29-2001, 10:18 AM   #14
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For some reason it didn't work like I wanted. You just have to copy and paste it. Sorry. When you get on the site just type in what you are looking for and them you will get a e-mail from any junkyards that have what you are looking for.
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Unread 08-30-2001, 12:50 AM   #15
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i like that!thankyou very much. also one thing that helps me out;one of the guys i work with has a dad that runs a bone yard.so i've got him looking for stuff too.here in texas,you have to follow your "donor" vehicle to the scrap pile or you'll miss out!
the one jeep boneyard here is mighty proud of their crap!i am now leaning toward the axle swap.ah,the pleasure of owning a jeep!
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