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Unread 06-06-2013, 10:34 PM   #1
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Ok guys I just put a 2 inch BB on my WJ and then started reading a forum (Maybe I should have researched first)
Is a spacer bad for the jeep? Am I going to have ball joints breaking and things binding?

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Unread 06-07-2013, 05:02 AM   #2
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Unless you buy a pretty expensive set they are likely to be out of balance. Even expensive ones can be out of balance. Then you have to balance the wheel on the truck. Who does that?

Of course, spacers change the leverage that the road forces apply to the suspension. Think of it like being on a tetter totter and one kid moves a little further out. That is what happens when you put a spacer on.

Finally, they are often made of cheap metal and if they break, bad things happen.

An expensive set of spacers, 20 new lug nuts, and on-the-truck wheel balancing usually comes to about what the right sized steel wheels might have cost in the first place. Of course, if you are trying to fit an existing set of expensive wheels that you already own, most guys go with the spacers.
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Unread 06-07-2013, 05:49 AM   #3
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Agree with buying a quality set of spacers (e.g. Spidertrax (which come with the lug nuts)). Then be sure to follow install instructions carefully. If you do all that they are no different than running wheels with less backspacing. I run them on my daughter's XJ so she can use JK wheels (they convert lug pattern too) and I don't worry about her.
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Unread 06-07-2013, 06:36 AM   #4
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he is talking about the spring spacers on the budget boost not wheel spacers
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he is talking about the spring spacers on the budget boost not wheel spacers
Yeah I don't know how it got off track so quickly....
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Unread 06-07-2013, 07:03 AM   #6
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Why would coil spring spacers have any effect on ball joints, gundog? Use some logic here.
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Unread 06-07-2013, 07:10 AM   #7
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Why would coil spring spacers have any effect on ball joints, gundog? Use some logic here.

Don't be going down the use some logic with me....I am asking a question on something I have no idea about. I read a forum and now I'm asking you all because I'm trusting ya'll know about this stuff. Coil spacers they were saying that shocks will break, ball joints go out fast, cv binds, ect...
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he is talking about the spring spacers on the budget boost not wheel spacers
Ooops! Nevermind.
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Unread 06-07-2013, 07:46 AM   #9
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The only issue you can really run into is with the additional lift you could run into your shocks over extending, which will cause issues. Longer shocks fixes that. You should also check your rig fully flexed to see if your brake lines are long enough.
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Unread 06-07-2013, 01:10 PM   #10
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Don't be going down the use some logic with me....I am asking a question on something I have no idea about. I read a forum and now I'm asking you all because I'm trusting ya'll know about this stuff. Coil spacers they were saying that shocks will break, ball joints go out fast, cv binds, ect...
OK, regardless of if you agree with the process of applying logical thinking to something in order to counter your unfamiliarity with something, let's do that.

Coil spacers go where? Above the coils. What does that do? It raises the frame further away from the axles a distance equal to the height of the spacers. Therefore, everything attached to the frame -- the engine, transmission, transfer case, tub, one end of each drive shaft, one end of each shock, etc -- go up with it.

Ball joints are affixed to the front axle housing. They are effected by the added leverage of larger tires and/or wheels with less backspacing. The coil spacer is irrelevant to them. The shocks will only experience any issues if they are reach full extension under normal driving conditions. Considering one end is attached to the frame, their new ride height length will increase by the height of the spacer. I would recommend you purchase shocks that are longer by the same amount as the height of your pucks, or thereabouts. This also will require your bump stops be adjusted to eliminate the chance of your shocks acting as limiters.

The CV end of your drive shaft (at the transfer case output) may or may not have issues with the new increase in its operating angle. An easy, non-scientific way to tell is to go for a drive after the install. Driveline vibrations are unmistakable in feel and if you have some, you either need to lower the transfer case skid or come up with another solution.

Regardless of if you're mechanically inclined or not, the partnership between your eyes and your brain can help you figure out a whole lot of stuff.
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Unread 06-07-2013, 05:59 PM   #11
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OK, regardless of if you agree with the process of applying logical thinking to something in order to counter your unfamiliarity with something, let's do that.

Coil spacers go where? Above the coils. What does that do? It raises the frame further away from the axles a distance equal to the height of the spacers. Therefore, everything attached to the frame -- the engine, transmission, transfer case, tub, one end of each drive shaft, one end of each shock, etc -- go up with it.

Ball joints are affixed to the front axle housing. They are effected by the added leverage of larger tires and/or wheels with less backspacing. The coil spacer is irrelevant to them. The shocks will only experience any issues if they are reach full extension under normal driving conditions. Considering one end is attached to the frame, their new ride height length will increase by the height of the spacer. I would recommend you purchase shocks that are longer by the same amount as the height of your pucks, or thereabouts. This also will require your bump stops be adjusted to eliminate the chance of your shocks acting as limiters.

The CV end of your drive shaft (at the transfer case output) may or may not have issues with the new increase in its operating angle. An easy, non-scientific way to tell is to go for a drive after the install. Driveline vibrations are unmistakable in feel and if you have some, you either need to lower the transfer case skid or come up with another solution.

Regardless of if you're mechanically inclined or not, the partnership between your eyes and your brain can help you figure out a whole lot of stuff.
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Unread 06-07-2013, 10:34 PM   #12
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I would recommend you purchase shocks that are longer by the same amount as the height of your pucks, or thereabouts. This also will require your bump stops be adjusted to eliminate the chance of your shocks acting as limiters.
So 2 inch lift shocks is all I should need. Now...Bump Stops, where the hell are those lol. I literally pulled this crap off for 3 1/2 hours and put back together for the first time by myself. So as for mechanically inclined I am but cut me some slack for I did a crap ton (again) for the first time and I didn't sit there and look at things. I just followed directions and used simple machines to complete my task. So without insult... What are the bumpstops and how do I adjust? Thanks a million
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