recovery NO NO?

**mschviuz** · 02-19-2008, 12:48 PM

Ok....not sure where to post this but since I have a TJ I'll try here.
I've read posts that say you aren't supposed to use tow straps with metal hooks and I can use my imagination to figure out the why but.....

what is the correct way to use a recovery strap? any pics?
I'm new to 4 wheelin and would like to see the correct ways before something goes majorly wrong!

JasonJW · 02-19-2008, 12:51 PM

If a strap with a metal hook lets go, a large hunk of metal goes flying through the air causing the obvious safety issue. If a loop strap breaks, the idea is that there is no chunk of metal attached to it.

**mschviuz** · 02-19-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonJW

If a strap with a metal hook lets go, a large hunk of metal goes flying through the air causing the obvious safety issue. If a loop strap breaks, the idea is that there is no chunk of metal attached to it.

Yea...that's what I meant by i can imagine the reason not to use hooks. What I want to know is how are you tieing the loops without them tightening up so much you can't get them off

Jerky bump · 02-19-2008, 01:05 PM

I wonder if there's been a thread on "recovery techniques"? That would be cool. I think the main rule is to hook to something capable of taking the jerk and just use your imagination depending on the circumstances. Personally, I think an axle would be the best point of hookup-but it's likely seldom available. I also read there are minimum hook points required on a rig before you're allowed on certain trails. Tying loops is better done with proper knots like a sheepshank and bowline. There are also special knots used for straps and slippery material. Just remember, knots on average weaken the "rope" by half.

**mschviuz** · 02-19-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerky bump

I wonder if there's been a thread on "recovery techniques"? That would be cool. I think the main rule is to hook to something capable of taking the jerk and just use your imagination depending on the circumstances. Personally, I think an axle would be the best point of hookup-but it's likely seldom available. I also read there are minimum hook points required on a rig before you're allowed on certain trails. Tying loops is better done with proper knots like a sheepshank and bowline. There are also special knots used for straps and slippery material. Just remember, knots on average weaken the "rope" by half.

I have the d shackles front and rear but wan't sure the best way to tie the strap. I guess you could run the strap through the shackle and back through the loop but what about the other end? I can just imagine how how it would be to untie a standard knot after all the pulling!

msavard · 02-19-2008, 01:14 PM

Are you serious?

Any strap has a loop on each end. Put the loop through the D rings on your rig... no need to tie anything.

**mschviuz** · 02-19-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by msavard

Are you serious?

Any strap has a loop on each end. Put the loop through the D rings on your rig... no need to tie anything.

Ok feel like an idiot...not enough coffee I suppose.
I didn't think of that because I tightened the pin down so it wouldn't come off on the road. I just need to keep a crescent wrench in the jeep.

Anyway to delete this entire thread so the jeep world doesn't think I'm completely stupid...I swear...I'm not. LOL!

Ross · 02-19-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mschviuz

Ok....not sure where to post this but since I have a TJ I'll try here.
I've read posts that say you aren't supposed to use tow straps with metal hooks and I can use my imagination to figure out the why but.....

what is the correct way to use a recovery strap? any pics?
I'm new to 4 wheelin and would like to see the correct ways before something goes majorly wrong!

Those are tow straps. They are fine for towing around a vehicle that isn't stuck. Recovery straps are rated higher.

SeanCucf · 02-19-2008, 01:27 PM

This may help you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JBnxSqpuCM&feature=related

msavard · 02-19-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mschviuz

Ok feel like an idiot...not enough coffee I suppose.
I didn't think of that because I tightened the pin down so it wouldn't come off on the road. I just need to keep a crescent wrench in the jeep.

Anyway to delete this entire thread so the jeep world doesn't think I'm completely stupid...I swear...I'm not. LOL!

No worries man.. we all start somewhere.

Little tip on the shackles... I keep my torqued down as well... Just use a screwdriver (or anything with a tip that will fit through the hole) through the hole at the end of the pin to gain leverage to twist it.... get a lot of leverage that way.

Congrats on being smart enough to seek out the proper way to recover a vehicle instead of just winging it and risking injury/damage.

sourskittle · 02-19-2008, 01:31 PM

Get on youtube and search for "4x4 recovery".
I had 6 pages pop up. I watched one the other week that was great.

If you use shackles/metal all you have to do it loop a safety strap round the hook/metal side so that if it goes flying, the small safety loop/rope will catch it and kill all its energy.

Some Aussie cats did the video, it was great. It was like a whole series.

Nevermind, I went and found it for ya
This video should be something everyone that signs on to the forum should watch

**mschviuz** · 02-19-2008, 01:46 PM

thanks guys, I'll check those vids out when I get home. can't pull up youtube and some other vid sites here at work(blocked)

Lostj · 02-19-2008, 01:56 PM

snatching with rope=

(in my case )

dz1087 · 02-19-2008, 01:57 PM

Good video.

badoosh27 · 02-19-2008, 01:57 PM

i have both a recovery strap and a chain. a ton of people hate the idea of using a chain, but my chain is darn near unbreakable. i know they can break, but the odds of my little TJ making enough force to break it is zero. i used it with my old K5 Blazer to pull down trees, pull out stuck people, and all kinds of stuff and have never had a problem. i would trust a chain waaaaay more than the cable on a winch even. i'm not knocking straps, but i like my chain. plus its about 40 feet long and can reach much farther than any strap i've seen.