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Unread 02-22-2008, 07:57 PM   #1
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getting ready to paint but need some advise. Going to paint Gun Metal Gray metalic. is it best to paint everything at one time or can I split it up , tub first then doors, hood, fenders etc sepertaly? painting myself in a small space. By doing so is there going to be a problem matching the panels? I will most likely buy a gallon of paint so it will be all the same Batch. Will there be any problems with this? Thanks everyone

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Unread 02-22-2008, 08:55 PM   #2
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getting ready to paint but need some advise. Going to paint Gun Metal Gray metalic. is it best to paint everything at one time or can I split it up , tub first then doors, hood, fenders etc sepertaly? painting myself in a small space. By doing so is there going to be a problem matching the panels? I will most likely buy a gallon of paint so it will be all the same Batch. Will there be any problems with this? Thanks everyone
Here are your variables
1. Temperature
2. Humidity
3. Air pressure at the compressor tank
4. Air pressure at the fluid tip
5. Accuracy in mixing each batch
6. Reducer speed
There are others I won't get into.

To answer your question based on my 20 years of experience, I would suggest trying to do everything at one time. This is key. If you paint the tub today and then the fenders and hood tomorrow, those variables can play hell on the outcome. Why? In metallice paint, air pressure and technigue is everything.
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Unread 02-22-2008, 09:49 PM   #3
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Turpehar is absolutely correct...I painted my Jeep piece by piece roughly the same color as you're suggesting...doesn't EVEN match! One of the reasons he didn't get into was that I painted the tub and fenders and hood at their normal angle...and the doors horizontally...and the doors don't EVEN match! But, I don't care...it's a Jeep...if it was my Camaro ragtop, I would have repainted it...If you want it to match, even out of the same can, paint it all at the same time, and use a proper booth...rent one...worth the money...
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Unread 02-22-2008, 10:45 PM   #4
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Thanks guys might have to go to Macco and have them spray it. Suppose if im willing to spend money on Dupont better not try this one on my own. Problem is closest Macco is 4 hours away
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Unread 02-22-2008, 11:10 PM   #5
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I wouldnt go to maaco if I were you. Im not sure if its the same by you as it is by me, but they do pretty half hearted work. They give cheap prices because they use cheap paint and do a pretty sloppy job. If you're not looking for a show quality job, go there. I wouldn't recommend it though.
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Unread 02-23-2008, 01:55 PM   #6
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Yer on the right track, though...by the time you buy the compressor (and a small one won't do) gun, yadayadayada and materials, you will have spent more money and time than it is worth...and if it's yer first paint job, you probably won't be particularly happy with it!
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Well, If you did decide to paint yourself, being that I have a decent compressor and a gun, what would be the best possible situation for DIY to set up in my garage? I understand I would have to allow for ventilation, but anything I might not be thinking about?

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Unread 02-24-2008, 10:02 PM   #8
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Turn off the water heater.
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Unread 02-24-2008, 10:32 PM   #9
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Turn off the water heater.
Amen to that. But actually ANY ignition source for that matter: if you have an electrical fuse box in the garage...well, you'll *probably* be safe...but I'd bag it, tape it off, whatever.........


to which I'll add for the other small inconviences....

Also COVER EVERYTHING...I mean EVERYTHING in the garage: better yet, drape off a section of the garage like a cave/box for the whole painting....that would include the floor. Nothing like random dust to ruin an otherwise good spray. If you dont want to do the floor then WASH down the floor and air spray it outta the garage.

DO use the tackcloth...actually use several.

Take the time to tape everything off.....its a PITA BIG TIME but its small stuff like this that shows the experts from the 1st timers.
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Unread 02-25-2008, 06:35 AM   #10
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Kirk, to give you a for instance, my dad and I painted his silver cj5 in pieces in my shop, He even painted the hood and grille outside the front door. Goatboy and the others are right about metallic paint. The grille and windshield frame look alot differnt than the rest of the jeep. He didn't worry about it though it is a jeep. I will say this from what I have seen metallic paint is much harder to spray. We had to respray the hood due to tiger stripping. We did find with two people, one painting and one mixing and keeping the batch stirred up really well the panels will be very close. I am currently primming my 7 in the same shop and plan on shooting things seperatly but with viper red and no metallic. Good luck jc
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Unread 02-25-2008, 07:36 PM   #11
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Kirk, are you using single stage or basecoat/clearcoat?

If using basecoat/clearcoat, you can base one part, let it flash, move it, then move another panel in base it etc...

If using single stage you are better off painting everything at once
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Unread 02-26-2008, 09:00 PM   #12
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Kirk, are you using single stage or basecoat/clearcoat?

If using basecoat/clearcoat, you can base one part, let it flash, move it, then move another panel in base it etc...

If using single stage you are better off painting everything at once
was planing on Dupont 6000 base coat and then clear
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Unread 02-26-2008, 10:01 PM   #13
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Tigerstriping could be the function of a lower quality paint gun, or spraying too close to the surface...what I like to do with metallics, even though I use top grade guns and don't have problems with 'em, is right after I spray a panel or area, spray a dust coat over the whole thing from at least 2-3' away from the surface...
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Unread 02-26-2008, 10:13 PM   #14
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x2 what goatboy said, a "drop-coat" is your friend!
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