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Unread 02-18-2014, 06:51 PM   #1
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NIGHT driving in SNOW a major PROBLEM

Long time member, first post, hope you can help me with a lighting issue.

I'm often driving at night, it's often snowing hard, and the Wrangler TJ headlights light up the falling snow in a big way, so much that it's hard to concentrate on the road (no high beams, just regular halogen headlights, aimed correctly.) Looks like this:



However, with my Hella fog lamps ON and headlight OFF, it's so much better! I can see the road and the light reflecting off falling snow isn't blinding. Probably because my fog lamps are mounted lower (bumper) and have a different pattern--more horizontal spread. Problem with that is if I turn my headlights off, cars behind me won't see my tail lights. which is also illeagal. So I have to have both headlights and fog lamps on, and strain my eyes to see a glimmer of road through the whiteout.

What do I do?
alter or replace the headlights so the beam isn't so difused, or
install auxiliary driving lights, activated by an independent switch, that will also activate my tail lights

Other suggestions?

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Unread 02-18-2014, 07:05 PM   #2
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Rewire the fog lamp switch to work independent of the headlight switch, and then on snowy nights run the running lights/taillights (headlights off) and fog lamps.
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Unread 02-18-2014, 07:07 PM   #3
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Might consider getting some of those amber glasses, they sometimes help with visibility as well.
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Unread 02-18-2014, 09:58 PM   #4
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This is exactly why they make fog lights and also why good lighting has such a sharp cut-off. Why won't your tail lights be on if your parking lights and fogs are on? I'm confused.
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Unread 02-18-2014, 10:15 PM   #5
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I know in my LJ, I can turn on the parking lights and pull on the knob and just the fog lights and driving lights come on...I do this mostly on the backroads when it is foggy as it reduces the glare. I'm not sure if every vehicle can do this though.
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Unread 02-19-2014, 11:05 AM   #6
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Wranglers have a 3 position light switch. Off, parking, and on, for the headlights. With the parking lights on, you can pull the column out and the fogs will come on as well if they're wired to the factory fogs. But since you said Hella I'm guessing they're not. Just switch the lights to the middle position and your parking lights will come on.
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Unread 02-19-2014, 01:39 PM   #7
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As other's have said, you should be able to turn on the running lights (parking lights) without turning on the headlights.
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Unread 02-20-2014, 02:48 PM   #8
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i've been driving in snow like that for close to 25 years here in northern Mn. and working rotating shifts means lots of night driving. you have options: add driving lights as they put their light below bumper level and will have better distance than traditional fog lights, or rewire your fogs so you can use them independently.
for true fog lights, i prefer the yellow lenses or bulbs as i get a clearer picture with less glare compared to clear. also, fog lights don't have the distance of neither your regular headlights nor driving lights.
in your situation, it would be easier, imho, to get some driving (also called cornering) lights and wire them independently then just use them with your light switch in the center position as has been stated already.
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Unread 02-22-2014, 10:12 PM   #9
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Get some low mounted amber lights. I replaced my stock fogs with PIAA LED fogs http://www.piaa.com/store/p/188-LP-5...Light-Kit.aspx and put a yellow film over them. Worked great in the snow. Maybe a low mounted Rigid bar would work ok, if it was aimed low enough.
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Unread 02-23-2014, 09:40 AM   #10
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Get some low mounted amber lights. I replaced my stock fogs with PIAA LED fogs http://www.piaa.com/store/p/188-LP-5...Light-Kit.aspx and put a yellow film over them. Worked great in the snow. Maybe a low mounted Rigid bar would work ok, if it was aimed low enough.
I'd skip the Rigid bar. Those lights are pretty crappy lens wise. No cut off whatsoever. You're just throwing light in front of you. With the PIAA or other nice light you will see better due to less reflection upwards because of a nice clean cut-off in the beam pattern.
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Unread 02-24-2014, 08:03 PM   #11
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Check and see if you can find a pair of Procomp Fluted lens fog lights. if you find some replace the bulbs with a pair of PIAA Crystal Ion bulbs. They throw a VERY flat wide beam pattern. We don't do snow here, but when we get a case of sea fog it's nasty. this combo cuts right through, without blinding other drivers or you.
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amber lamps mounted up front and as low as possible for the win!
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Unread 02-25-2014, 10:17 PM   #13
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I shut the headlights off and run factory fog lights with blue filters in "white out" conditions. They look like a euro light to oncoming traffic and cut down on the amount of light being bounced back at you. Still lighting up the road so you can drive. They also cast a darker shadow than white or yellow light - so you can see snow drifts or changes in depth.



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This is exactly why they make fog lights and also why good lighting has such a sharp cut-off. Why won't your tail lights be on if your parking lights and fogs are on? I'm confused.
Ah yes, parking lights, forgot about those
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Unread 02-27-2014, 07:01 PM   #15
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Wranglers have a 3 position light switch. Off, parking, and on, for the headlights. With the parking lights on, you can pull the column out and the fogs will come on as well if they're wired to the factory fogs. But since you said Hella I'm guessing they're not. Just switch the lights to the middle position and your parking lights will come on.
Awesome, thank you. Simplest solutions are the best.
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