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Unread 04-05-2014, 01:12 PM   #1396
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All,

Sorry to interrupt, but, I have a question. Someone along the way showed latches that adjust on a thread. I know there's lots, so see the picture. Anyway, they use them to secure a fuel tank to the trailer and I can't find the thread it is on. Doe s anyone know where that post is and if it is on this thread. If it is, I'll look more thoroughly. Thanks.

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Unread 04-05-2014, 08:37 PM   #1397
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So we got the box bolted to the frame. It took 35 bolts (one inch long 5/16" stainless steel button head bolts). We used another 12 (six on each end) same-sized bolts through the upright portion of the angle iron (second picture).

What's interesting, is the box is built such that all four sides fold under to the floor only about 3/4", forming a lip. A large sheet of non-diamond plate aluminum is then laid down on top of this lip and welded in place (and sealed with silicone). Which is fine I guess, but what happens is there's a gap between the trailer frame (which is 2" wide at the top) and the bottom of the floor of the trailer. So most of the holes were bolting through the flooring and not the diamond plate. Some of the holes when through the edge of the diamond plate where it ended and the floor began. So we put washers between the floor and the frame before bolting it down (the diamond plate lip was resting on the frame). On the center crossmember we put a piece of steel 1/4" thick to fill the gap.

So when you think about it, the box was bolted down by the flooring only, and not through the diamond plate lip. Part of my plan to fix that was to put 2" angle iron 1/8" thick front and rear (to fill in the gaps), and not only have holes drilled through the angle where it sat on the frame, but also in the upright portion so it attached to the diamond plate front and end pieces. I hope the pictures help.

We also took the rubber mat that used to be on the floor of the trailer when it was a wooden box, and put it in the new box after drilling holes so the rubber mat would go over the bolt heads (the mat's not bolted to the floor). You can see how much extra space the new box has.

Next up: mounting the spare tire and gas cans.
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Unread 04-06-2014, 10:20 AM   #1398
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Looking awesome. Coming together nicely.
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Unread 04-07-2014, 07:59 AM   #1399
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Unread 04-07-2014, 06:26 PM   #1401
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Thanks all. I'm enjoying this next phase of my trailer build.

Some pictures of our progress today. We mounted up the spare tire carrier on the back panel. I still need to take it back apart to paint the thin channel used to reinforce the panel the spare tire mount is on, and I'll use shorter bolts for the final fitment along with locking nuts (those are my set-up bolts to make sure things fit). But the channel really makes that panel stiffer. We'll do the same when we mount the 4 gallon Kolpin fuel pack on the front panel.

If you're going to mount something heavy on one of these diamond plate aluminum boxes you need to do some sort of reinforcement to help support it. I'm using 2" wide 1/8" thick what I call "shallow channel" from Home Depot. It's the same thing I used for some of the tongue and frame reinforcements when I lengthened the tongue a page-or-so back.

We had to cut about an inch and a quarter off the bottom of the spare tire carrier so it would clear the angle iron. I could have flipped the spare tire carrier, but I was wanting to mount it as low on the panel as possible.
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Looks great! But damn there are a lot of bolts on that trailer!
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All,

Sorry to interrupt, but, I have a question. Someone along the way showed latches that adjust on a thread. I know there's lots, so see the picture. Anyway, they use them to secure a fuel tank to the trailer and I can't find the thread it is on. Doe s anyone know where that post is and if it is on this thread. If it is, I'll look more thoroughly. Thanks.

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Mcmaster carr carries those.
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Mcmaster carr carries those.
Thanks. I'll look for them.
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Unread 04-08-2014, 10:32 AM   #1405
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Thanks. I'll look for them.
here: http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-draw-latches/=rg6552
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Unread 04-08-2014, 05:25 PM   #1406
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OK, I've got a trip to arid-zona Thursday and I'm not going with the HF springs (clapper springs) so I'm going in. I'm putting on the springs now. Will have them on tonight. Yeah. Soft, soft ride here I come.
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Unread 04-08-2014, 08:14 PM   #1407
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Looks great! But damn there are a lot of bolts on that trailer!
And I keep adding more!

Add 8 each on each side for the Kolpin fuel packs. And I haven't even started mounting the front Kolpin fuel pack (that'll be another 16 bolts).

Add another 11 on each side for the diamond plate aluminum fenders that just came in today (they are going to look GOOD on the trailer). Gotta paint them black first before mounting them though. It's silver diamond plate overkill if I don't paint them.

Lowe's is loving me for buying all the nuts/bolts/washers I've been getting recently. I've been buying stuff in bulk practically.
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OK, I've got a trip to arid-zona Thursday and I'm not going with the HF springs (clapper springs) so I'm going in. I'm putting on the springs now. Will have them on tonight. Yeah. Soft, soft ride here I come.
How's the install going? I'm looking forward to a write-up with pictures (and your impression of the springs after your trip).
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The new trailer is looking Great! Do you have a link or where did you get the bolt on d-rings on the back? Keep up the good work.

trailer build. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f27/a...build-1558519/
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Unread 04-09-2014, 09:11 AM   #1410
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How's the install going? I'm looking forward to a write-up with pictures (and your impression of the springs after your trip).
Things never go just as planned, or at least not as fast. Due to my having welded on the previous spring brackets, it took a little bit more time to get the old springs off. But, it is all ready to weld/bolt on the new brackets this afternoon and take it out for a test ride. I'm going to attach them both ways as the steel on the brackets is pretty thick (3/16?) which is at the limits of my Hobart 135. So as to not be driving down the road and have the welds give way from stress, I'll back them up with a bolt each. Peace of mind as they say. But I want to still weld them on as well. Shouldn't take long to weld. Drilling the holes will take the longest time. I'll post up some pics and thoughts over on my build thread and here when I get the chance.
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