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post #91 of 118 Old 01-16-2013, 05:43 PM
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Sorry to revive this thread, but I have questions and I am confused. I apologize in advance for my ignorance. I have a 2006 Unlimited Rubicon with a custom 4" lift with a 1.25" body lift and a 1" mml. I am running 35's.

1. I now understand the currie antirock system and why it would be good. I plan on installing one.
2. What about changing out the oe tie rod system with a hd one? If so, which do people recommend. I am leaning towards the Currie.
3. Is a steering stabilizer useful? If so, will any kit do or is one better than another? It seems to me that they are all about the same.
4. One other question, and sorry about this one, but what purpose do jj's serve? I have tried to read up on them, but I am still confused. Any help would be much appreciated.

One day, I hope to be up on this stuff as much as some of you so that I can help others.

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post #92 of 118 Old 01-16-2013, 06:23 PM
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Sorry to revive this thread, but I have questions and I am confused. I apologize in advance for my ignorance. I have a 2006 Unlimited Rubicon with a custom 4" lift with a 1.25" body lift and a 1" mml. I am running 35's.

1. I now understand the currie antirock system and why it would be good. I plan on installing one.
2. What about changing out the oe tie rod system with a hd one? If so, which do people recommend. I am leaning towards the Currie.
3. Is a steering stabilizer useful? If so, will any kit do or is one better than another? It seems to me that they are all about the same.
4. One other question, and sorry about this one, but what purpose do jj's serve? I have tried to read up on them, but I am still confused. Any help would be much appreciated.

One day, I hope to be up on this stuff as much as some of you so that I can help others.

Thanks.
Using a steering stabilizer is fine. It helps dampen the steering feedback from bod and whatnot, and that helps extend the life of your steering. Just don't try to replace a stabilizer to mask a problem.

Johnny Joints, or any flex joint, allows the suspension to twist and articulate without binding the control arms. This will allow greater wheel travel. A solid (ish) joint will also take out unpredictability in the steering an suspension.

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post #93 of 118 Old 01-20-2013, 07:55 PM
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Thanks, another question on the antirocks. As I understand it, when you install the system, the two antirock bars are supposed to be parallel to the ground. If this is the case, when you are offroading and the wheels are articulating, do the antirock bars articulate up and down dramatically, that is, leave parallel and go to an angle greater than or less than 90 degrees?

The reason I ask is that my custom-made bumper will allow me to install the nylon bushings and the sway bars into the front oe tube on the Jeep, but the bumper will get in the way if there is a lot of up and down motion on the antirock bars as the ends would hit up against the bumper. I am just wondering if I am going to have to grind a notch into my bumper so the ends attached to the nylon bushings can move up and down.

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Those are the arms that engage the ends of the sway bar itself. Yes, they move up and down as the axle articulates and, therefore, the sway bar twists. If the bumper is in the way, notch it. The arms don't need to be at any relative angle to the ground. The goal is that, at full droop, the arms can't invert and at full bump they don't hit anything. Put them at whatever angle @ ride height accomplishes those goals. Generally, you'll end up with the arms about 10* upward relative to the horizontal.

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post #95 of 118 Old 03-13-2013, 07:05 AM
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Read through the the OP and check out the Additional Resources at the bottom. There's an install on a 2" lifted Jeep that'll be helpful for a 2.5" lift. If you can find some double threaded end links from McMaster Carr instead of getting a custom machined link that should save a pile.

For what it's worth, the SwayLOC is designed for rigs from 0-6+ inches of lift. The Anti-rock works best with rigs 4" and higher. Lower than that, especially 2" or lower Jeeps, and you get into issues with not having enough threads on the end links.
Been reading through this thread and want to find out more if anti-rock works or does not work well with a 2 - 2.5 inch lift. The links in the OP seem to be dead so can't find more info there.

Can you (or somebody else) tell a bit more abt the use of the anti-rock system with smaller lifts?

Fyi I will install my OME 2-2.5inch lift soon and looking into options for quick disco's & anti-rock / swayloc (although anti-rock is pushing the budget already so the swayloc isn't really an option anyway)

Any thoughts on using the anti-rock with the OME 2-2.5inch lift are most welcome.

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Been reading through this thread and want to find out more if anti-rock works or does not work well with a 2 - 2.5 inch lift. The links in the OP seem to be dead so can't find more info there.

Can you (or somebody else) tell a bit more abt the use of the anti-rock system with smaller lifts?

Fyi I will install my OME 2-2.5inch lift soon and looking into options for quick disco's & anti-rock / swayloc (although anti-rock is pushing the budget already so the swayloc isn't really an option anyway)

Any thoughts on using the anti-rock with the OME 2-2.5inch lift are most welcome.

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You'll potentially have to shorten the links but otherwise will work great.

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Been reading through this thread and want to find out more if anti-rock works or does not work well with a 2 - 2.5 inch lift. The links in the OP seem to be dead so can't find more info there.

Can you (or somebody else) tell a bit more abt the use of the anti-rock system with smaller lifts?

Fyi I will install my OME 2-2.5inch lift soon and looking into options for quick disco's & anti-rock / swayloc (although anti-rock is pushing the budget already so the swayloc isn't really an option anyway)

Any thoughts on using the anti-rock with the OME 2-2.5inch lift are most welcome.

Thanks,
Martin

I've run my SwayLoc originally with a 2" BDS lift and it really sold me on the performance of an off road purpose anti-sway bar. Prior to the SwayLoc, I was running TeraFlex's quicker disconnects and while they were a great product, they did not offer the same control on extreme camber obstacles, that a SwayLoc or Antirock gives you.

I've since changed out my suspension from a 2" BDS lift to a 2" OME lift and I did not have to adjust my SwayLoc (links).

You still get flex but with control as depicted in the pics below (SwayLoc + 2" BDS suspension lift) .




Again, I get the same performance outcome with the OME lift and SwayLoc .

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Been reading through this thread and want to find out more if anti-rock works or does not work well with a 2 - 2.5 inch lift.
Why do you think a fixed-rate torsion bar cares how tall your springs are?

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Fyi I will install my OME 2-2.5inch lift soon and looking into options for quick disco's & anti-rock / swayloc (although anti-rock is pushing the budget already so the swayloc isn't really an option anyway)

Any thoughts on using the anti-rock with the OME 2-2.5inch lift are most welcome.

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Read my trail reports, look at my pics, or even watch my vids. I have the OME 2" HD lift with the Antirock.....love it.

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Why do you think a fixed-rate torsion bar cares how tall your springs are?
Well I saw couple of comments about fitting issues on smaller lifts but turns out this is just about the end links (which are appearantly made to suit larger lifts of say 4 inch), and even those don't always have to be shortenend.

Thanks all for the answers. Got some thinking to do if I want to spend the extra dollars on the currie system....

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Well I saw couple of comments about fitting issues on smaller lifts but turns out this is just about the end links (which are appearantly made to suit larger lifts of say 4 inch), and even those don't always have to be shortenend.
Correct, the links are the only thing that will need to be modified, and that's a very quick and easy job. You asked if the AR does or does not work well at x"....and the answer is yes, height doesn't matter.

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post #102 of 118 Old 04-03-2013, 06:52 AM
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when the weather gets warmer i will be installing the front AR. I have 3" of suspension lift so I'm assuming i can knock off 1/2" on each side of the connecting rod things? Also, can anybody tell me if i'll need to extend my brake lines?
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Yes, that should work, cutting 1/2" off each end. It's around 2" lift height where there are problems with the stock links.

And I don't think you'll need to extend your brake lines.

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