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Unread 08-01-2011, 06:25 PM   #1
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Hey guys I am looking for a hi lift and don't want to spend much. My question is would anyone recommend this one? If not what would you buy for less than about 75 bucks? Thanks
http://www.farmandfleet.com/products...k#.Tjc81yd5mc0

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Unread 08-01-2011, 06:27 PM   #2
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Hey guys I am looking for a hi lift and don't want to spend much. My question is would anyone recommend this one? If not what would you buy for less than about 75 bucks? Thanks
http://www.farmandfleet.com/products...k#.Tjc81yd5mc0
My recommendation . . . forget a hi lift and spend your money on safer, more practical mods.
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Unread 08-01-2011, 06:33 PM   #3
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I've got a Hi-Lift, had a couple of them over the years, they are invaluable tools, but I think the single worst thing you can use one for is to jack up a vehicle...
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Unread 08-01-2011, 06:36 PM   #4
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My recommendation . . . forget a hi lift and spend your money on safer, more practical mods.
Don't think the stock jack will lift my truck any more it's to tall. Plus a hi lift seems more stable when on the trail doing a repair or trying to get unstuck.
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Unread 08-01-2011, 06:44 PM   #5
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Don't think the stock jack will lift my truck any more it's to tall. Plus a hi lift seems more stable when on the trail doing a repair or trying to get unstuck.
On my phone so can't see your profile but stock bottle jack works up to 35s. Hi lift is anything but stable. Can be dangerously unstable in fact. Situations where it is only way to get unstuck rare IMO.
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Unread 08-01-2011, 06:55 PM   #6
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Sweet then I'm good only have 33s I just thought the bigger base on the hi lift was better. But I'm new to this kind of stuff and that why I ask before buying. Thanks guys
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Unread 08-01-2011, 07:01 PM   #7
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Sweet then I'm good only have 33s I just thought the bigger base on the hi lift was better. But I'm new to this kind of stuff and that why I ask before buying. Thanks guys
If you put the hi lift down under the axle where you put the bottle jack then maybe, maybe that would be sort of true. But with the height of the hi lift you end up having to jack from the frame or a bumper or a rocker and then you have to lift the whole suspension before axle lifts at all. End up having to lift everything so high that stability becomes a real issue. You don't want jeep falling off jack when you are working around it (assuming the handle doesn't brain you first).
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Unread 08-01-2011, 09:13 PM   #8
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But with the height of the hi lift you end up having to jack from the frame or a bumper or a rocker and then you have to lift the whole suspension before axle lifts at all. End up having to lift everything so high that stability becomes a real issue. You don't want jeep falling off jack when you are working around it (assuming the handle doesn't brain you first).
Hmmm I never had a problem jacking any of my Jeeps with my Hi-Lift. Mine had been stable while lifting from bumpers I usually wrap chain around the frame and axle so you don't have to lift as high and the suspension doesn't cycle as much. I've also had to use one as a winch. I recommend one it is a good tool but a dangerous one

If you plan on getting one please watch these videos
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Unread 08-01-2011, 10:01 PM   #9
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Don't think the stock jack will lift my truck any more it's to tall. Plus a hi lift seems more stable when on the trail doing a repair or trying to get unstuck.
You could have a 10" lift and 35", really almost 37" tires. and your factory jack would still work just fine for tire changing duties.

Remember... you jack up the axle to lift the tire up off the ground and a 33" tire only raises the axle 1.5" higher than a factory size 30" tire. My factory jack works fine with my 35" tires and it actually has enough height left over to go the additional inch 37" tires would require.

My Hi-Lift has been relegated to a home for my backyard shed's resident black widow spider for years now. It's too heavy, I never needed it, and it's too dangerous to be considered anything but a tool of last resort. I'd never consider using one on the trail until all other options are exausted. In 15 years of wheeling, I've only used my Hi-Lift twice... once just to try it out and once to change an axle shaft which was a dangerous way to do it. I would have been safer and completed the job faster using my bottle jack.
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Unread 08-01-2011, 10:01 PM   #10
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Way back in olden times cars used to come from the factory with high lifts in their spare tire kit....they were called "bumper jacks", they went to bottle and screws because bumper jacks were dangerous.
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Unread 08-02-2011, 10:18 AM   #11
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It's too heavy, I never needed it, and it's too dangerous to be considered anything but a tool of last resort. I'd never consider using one on the trail until all other options are exausted. In 15 years of wheeling, I've only used my Hi-Lift twice... once just to try it out and once to change an axle shaft which was a dangerous way to do it. I would have been safer and completed the job faster using my bottle jack.
Agreed. Mine's been sitting in the garage for the last few years. in eight years of four-wheeling I've used mine exactly twice and really only seen others have to use them a handful of times. If anyone in your group is properly equipped with winches and recovery straps that should really be all you need in most situations.
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Unread 08-02-2011, 02:00 PM   #12
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I have used a Hi lift a few times for recovery. A couple times in conjunction with my winch. One of the hardest recoveries I did was a Suzuki Samaria. We needed the Hi lift, a winch and lots of rocks.

Another use I had for my Hi Lift was to hold my rocker guards in place while I mounted them. Made that job very easy.

I really donít like to use it, but I like to have it just in case.
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Unread 08-02-2011, 08:39 PM   #13
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Hey guys I am looking for a hi lift and don't want to spend much. My question is would anyone recommend this one? If not what would you buy for less than about 75 bucks? Thanks
http://www.farmandfleet.com/products...k#.Tjc81yd5mc0
LOL I'll answer your question I guess.

If you want a high lift, get a high lift. I'd stay away from the knock offs. A high lift is a great tool, don't let anyone tell you different. It can be dangerous if you allow yourself to be dummer than the jack. Be smart and it will be a great investment that can last for a long time. I am 59 years old and bought my first High Lift when I was 23 and I just got my second one 5 years ago. The $75 is well spent.

Tractor Supply sells them pretty cheap now and then. If you buy one online then look for a place with free or at least cheap shipping as they are heavy.

Don't expect the High Lift to be your only jack or the best jack to use all the time. On a relative level surface the bottle type jack is indeed the unit to use as it's faster. Add mud, sticker patches, loose rock and the High Lift, used properly, is a wonderful tool. Just be smarter than the jack. And keep it oiled.
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I use my hi-lift quite often. Usually someone in my group(usually me) gets stuck on some rocks that they just can't get off of. I use the lift to help raise it off the rock so they can either drive off or get winched off without tearing things to shreds.

I use EXTREME caution while using it and the only person within the vicinity of it is the one person jacking it. Everytime I go up one notch I stand far back and wait to it to settle a little bit. Once I do get it to point I want it at for the recovery I move to the other side of the vehicle in case the jack wants to bomb and/or projectile.

It has served its purpose for me.
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Unread 08-03-2011, 01:02 PM   #15
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Wow... FUD with regard to Hi-Lift jacks? LOLOL I step away from the online Jeep community for a couple years and everyone turns into a bunch of big babies.

Just get one, it will save your bacon many times over and they serve as many purposes as duct tape.

As for the one you linked, why not just get a real one for the same price? http://www.4wheelparts.com/Winches-a...8394&t_pl=9617
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