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Unread 06-24-2013, 05:23 PM   #1
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Are fog lights really nessesary anymore? Especially on a TJ?

I have new led headlights and i have underbody led lights. I used to have a cute pair of amber fog lights up front but are they even nessesary anymore with todays wide throw aftermarket LED lights and other accessories?

Arent they on older jeeps like the tj, and drag on the jeeps areodynamics and one more system that is prone to fail? And you can use the wires and switch to power other accessories

Are fog lights obsolete?

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Unread 06-24-2013, 05:30 PM   #2
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It really depend son the situatiuon. I've had the stock lights on until I got new bumpers. Afterwards I had to take them off. I haven't had any real issues with them so far, but I'm in PA and fog isnt that bad around here. There are some times I wished I had the lights for that extra smidge of visibility, but otherwise they've been fine.
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I guess it's really a matter of personal opinion or preference. When I added my aftermarket bumper I drilled and mounted my stock fogs in the same position as factory. A TJ is a brick aerodynamically, so fogs aren't really going to hurt there. What is nice about them is what type of light pattern they throw. Headlights, regardless of type for the most part, do throw a beam pattern that is higher whether high or low beam. That's how you get distance in the beam pattern. Fog lights throw a beam pattern that doesn't reflect much, if any, light up. Just down and forward. The idea is not to "light up the fog" in front of you to help see better when visibility is impaired by smoke, fog, etc.
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and drag on the jeeps areodynamics
Are you serious?

To answer your question, the beam pattern used in fog lights will never be obsolete. The halogen light bulb is obsolete, but still the most cost-effective.
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Its mostly a joke to simulate conservation, but technically of course it is.

Im decided to take mine completely off and the mounts are coming off next. I typically dont drive in foggy areas and the new evolution leds work really well in the fog i have encountered so far. I may drill some holes inside the bumper to emulate the jk and put some fog lights later in there, but really its an ideal location for the laser i have mounted right now.
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Some things to know about fog lights. Don't confuse 'fog light' with 'fog beam'. A true fog light will give off an amber beam and the good ones will give off a horizontal bar of light. They should be mounted low (bumper) to be most effective. A fog 'beam' light can have a clear lens and give off a white light like a driving light. A fog beam just means the light pattern is wide and diffused whereas an identical looking driving light will have a narrower deeper down range beam.
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.... I used to have a cute pair of amber fog lights up front but are they even nessesary anymore
Needed....NO
But I love mine. I use them in the daytime as 'projection lights' for added safety
(aid in being seen by the growing # of older drivers with weaker eyesight).

As I get older I like how they throw a wider close in pattern that lights up road and roadside out to where the headlights take over! Especially on country roads.

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I drive a twisty mountain road to work and I wouldn't live without my fog lights. They light up the shoulders and the ditch on the turns. Lots of animals out and about.
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I drive a twisty mountain road to work and I wouldn't live without my fog lights. They light up the shoulders and the ditch on the turns. Lots of animals out and about.
That is the reason why. You can see the deer's eyes before they walk into the road.
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For normal everyday driving in urban and suburban areas, probably not. For country roads, absolutely. I dont have HIDs or LEDs but I have H4 bulbs with an upgraded harness and while it's a massive improvement over the stock headlights in an XJ it's not enough for when I'm out in the country. We have TONS of deer here and my foglights go a long way towards illuminating far out on the sides of the roads so I can see 20+ of them just sitting by the side of the road where it's otherwise pitch black at night unless it's a full moon.

The deer are so bad out here and like to hang out so close to the roads that I've even considered getting LED bars for the sides of my Jeep just to illuminate directly to my sides. I could do foglights for the same purpose and they'd do an equally good job, but the bars are more aerodynamic for being mounted on the sides.

Also I don't like how LEDs or HIDs reflect off of actual fog and find traditional foglights do a much better job in actual fog.
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Unread 06-30-2013, 10:58 PM   #12
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No, they are not obsolete. I use mine a lot. I live in the country, roads are dark and narrow and no shoulder. Deer and animals are hopping all over. I like my fog lights on because they light up the ditches and road sides without overly annoying on coming traffic.

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