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Unread 09-29-2008, 04:39 PM   #16
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It kinda surprises me that some one videoed it, then again I would. i'd be pissed if I rolled/caught on fire or something and didnt have it on tape.

anyway at that point no extinguisher is gonna do any good. Thats where we pull a 1"3/4 attack line off the truck.

The extinguisher itself should tell what type and give you an idea of what size area it will cover( like a 2x or something its been awhile since I had my portable extinguishers class).
Well the filming started after it became a lost battle. Up until that point there were at least 8 of us working on it.
I am sure the extinguisher said what size it was and the rating. But it got burned up with the rest of the stuff. You can see it near the rear passenger tire. It blew up and nozzle/valve and stem are a few feet away from it.
I dropped it and started shoveling when it ran out. I recall wanting an ABC one so i think that's what it was and I'm pretty sure it was 2.5 pounds. The other guy had the same.

I would like to take a class if there is one near by. That seems like a great idea. Maybe I can get my office on board with it?!

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Unread 09-29-2008, 04:44 PM   #17
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i had a smaller one i bought for about 15 bux like a 2 pounder barely had 5 seconds of charge in it barely put out a small gas fire ina chevy tpi motor. i have since upgraded twice in size as i find em or get em on sale. dont skimp on size buy the biggest one you can. and remember to give it a good shake a few good raps t o loosen up all the compacted powder inside of it. i keep mine between the door and the seat on the floor right there easy to grab. and sadly enough im the only one that had an extinguisher on my last trip. i was also the only one that brought air for tires, flares, a shovel, rope, and extra flashlights
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Unread 09-29-2008, 04:45 PM   #18
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Mine is mounted on the roll bar right behind my seat. It's not a big one, but it's better than trying to blow one out. If I can't put it out with that, I'll just let it go and collect on insurance.

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Unread 09-29-2008, 05:03 PM   #19
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Well the filming started after it became a lost battle. Up until that point there were at least 8 of us working on it.
I am sure the extinguisher said what size it was and the rating. But it got burned up with the rest of the stuff. You can see it near the rear passenger tire. It blew up and nozzle/valve and stem are a few feet away from it.
I dropped it and started shoveling when it ran out. I recall wanting an ABC one so i think that's what it was and I'm pretty sure it was 2.5 pounds. The other guy had the same.

I would like to take a class if there is one near by. That seems like a great idea. Maybe I can get my office on board with it?!

Its a great class, you learn about the different types and their applications, technique and all kinds of other stuff.

I got it as a part of my rookie school. Check with the local fd, and see if the local community college has any fd related classes (like continuing ed type stuff) Here it will cost if your not with the fd or ems, but you could talk your emloyer into paying!
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Unread 09-29-2008, 07:39 PM   #20
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It's kind of interesting that the guy with the FJ didn't have an extinguisher within reach, rather than have to run to somebody else's rig for help.
Seconds count in a fire as was pointed out.
Had HE had one, he could have possibly either put the fire out, or kept it under control until you all helped with yours. Just a thought.
I wasn't there.
But this is a good wake-up call. I think I'll replace my 2.5 with a 5 too.
Sucks he lost his rig.
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Unread 09-29-2008, 08:06 PM   #21
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Any chance I could get a picture of your setup Jerry?
Here ya go.
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Unread 09-30-2008, 09:03 AM   #22
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Something else to be aware of. I've had several of the Kidde and other home improvement store extinguishers in my Jeep and every one of them has died just from sitting. I finally talked to a fire extinguisher specialty store, and they told me that as the metal canister and plastic valve components temperature cycle they expand and contract at different rates allowing the pressurized propellant to leak out leaving you with a cake of retardant at the bottom of a non-rechargeable canister. They recommended several 5 pound all metal extinguishers they carry in the $50 range.

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Good point on the all metal extinguisher--that also came up in the conversation with my fire-safety store buddy. He also mentioned that trying to put out an engine fire by shooting the fire ext. through the radiator was probably not a good idea. He also said tires were almost impossible to extinguish. Scary stuff--we've had two vehicle fires in our club, so it does happen more than one might think.
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Unread 09-30-2008, 10:17 AM   #24
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One problem with powder type extinguishers (even 5 pounders) is that the powder can shake down and "cake" in the bottom due to vibration. Powder type extinguishers, in vehicles need to be removed and shaken up regularly and certainly before use. If the powder has caked up sometimes all you get is a PFFFt out of them (gas but no/little powder).

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Unread 09-30-2008, 10:35 AM   #25
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I like that location Jerry. I may try to go that way also.
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A tip I got from the local old-fart fire extinguisher guy - if you have a powder-type extinguisher, take it from it's mount every 6 months or so, and shake it to see if you can feel the powder moving. If not, use a rubber mallet and give it some good taps on the base and shake it good. You always want the shtuff moving around so that it does it's job when you need it.

If you have to use a powder-based one though, either plan on many hours of cleanup, or scrapping a motor
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I wonder how difficult/expensive it would be to rig up a dump system in engine compartment like was stock in the Aurora, or what is used in race/drag cars. A couple nozzles on the inside of the hood connected to a five poinder mounted somewhere?
The systems are pretty simple, and shouldn't weigh much.
I'm gunna' keep my eyes open at the Off Road Show in Pomona this weekend to see what others are using.
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any summit or jegs magazine will have a fire suppression system with a pin or lever activation. its required on racecars when you get to a certain speed. its a halon ( or equivilant) based system. expect to pay at least $300 and have to plumb it in bottle cables wires and hoses.
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any summit or jegs magazine will have a fire suppression system with a pin or lever activation. its required on racecars when you get to a certain speed. its a halon ( or equivilant) based system. expect to pay at least $300 and have to plumb it in bottle cables wires and hoses.
If it's only $300 I'll do it as a weekend project for cheap insurance.
BTW: Halon is gone. It eats the o-zone. Too bad too, 'cuz that stuff put out a fire really quickly. Let's blame Al Gore.
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