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post #1 of 11 Old 01-11-2017, 03:04 PM Thread Starter
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Cost: arb vs ox

After some web shopping I'm still kind of wondering, all things being equal, is a full set up from arb, including evening needed to convert a totally unlocked jeep front and rear, about the same cost as the same offering from Ox? It seems pretty close to me (with arb being only slightly higher) and I want to be sure I'm not missing anything.

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I went E-locker as it was a bit cheaper than an ARB.


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After some web shopping I'm still kind of wondering, all things being equal, is a full set up from arb, including evening needed to convert a totally unlocked jeep front and rear, about the same cost as the same offering from Ox? It seems pretty close to me (with arb being only slightly higher) and I want to be sure I'm not missing anything.
Between those two I'd go ARB no matter what.

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Between those two I'd go ARB no matter what.
I agree and plan to go ARB with my build but care to elaborate? I'm curious what your reasons are.


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Between those two I'd go ARB no matter what.
I've seen a lot of your posts, Jerry. I find that I usually agree with you. I'd like to hear your reasons... Have you used Ox before?
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Are you talking about OX cable or air?

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Are you talking about OX cable or air?
I've been considering cable. I like the idea of mechanical actuation. Seems very black and white to me. I also like that if the Ox breaks, I can install a bolt to lock it up and get off the trail. Plus, I'm planning on running an atlas and having all those shifters and levers appeal to me on a basic gamer/pilot level (only mostly joking). But seriously, placement could be a pain...

That being said, I had air lockers in my '03 Rubi, and I liked those quite a bit. But they weren't flawless. I remember having problems with them not wanting to lock up at one point. Probably a kink in the air line, I don't recall exactly. But I know those weren't ARB's so that's not a fair comparison.

Bottom line is: I'm planning a big build and I don't have the kind of money it takes to do it more than once!
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I faced a similar question and after considering all the + and -, went with ARB and am glad for it.

I also wanted OBA so engineered the ARBs to run off the OBA system (sub circuit PSI properly stepped down of course). Thus no need for a separate compressor. My OBA is engine belt driven AC compressor w/ 5 gal storage tank.

Also added mechanical pneumatic valves to avoid the electric solenoids. The valves are built into the shift knob, so locker power is right in your palm. This way also permits independent use of front or rear or both. And it screwed right onto the shift lever. Stupid simple.

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https://www.bigmachineparts.com/prod...wDAhoCAZbw_wcB


We liked the cable actuator idea but since we could match the OBA for general purposes and power the ARBs it was an easy choice.

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I have run ARBs for a long time and I am happy with them. I have run with a couple people with Ox's. They seem to have to play around with things to get them un locked. I t may have been how they routed the cable, not sure.


Both seem to work really well, I think the installation itself what is the most important. I would find who I trust to do the work and ask them what they are most familiar with.

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I've seen a lot of your posts, Jerry. I find that I usually agree with you. I'd like to hear your reasons... Have you used Ox before?
I haven't used an Ox but I was close to one of its developers in the very beginning who spent a lot of time explaining its development to me. I just never liked its cable actuation and how difficult it was to mount the levers, not to mention earlier versions of the shifter mechanism used to go out of adjustment. I understand that has been resolved by now though.

I don't really have a great reason any more, and yes I know you can use air now too, only that properly installed ARBs never really had issues and are still considered (by most) to be pretty much the best and most reliable selectable locker available. I did an unofficial count of various lockers used in the King of the Hammers event I was at several years ago and over 90% were using ARB air lockers, less than 5% were using Ox Lockers.

So while there's probably not all that much wrong with today's Ox locker, it just wouldn't be on my short list of potential selectable lockers if I was to be in the market for one.

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I don't really have a great reason any more
Fair enough. I'm sure the Ox would do the job, but the more I think about it, the more I start to think that cool levers and my desire to run something a little different from everyone else aren't necessarily reason enough.
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