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Unread 10-28-2011, 01:21 PM   #61
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My concern with doing that would be trapping heat around the motor if too much were used. Warn doesn't RTV the motor, I don't think I would either.
I don't see how sealing up a winch could cause a discernible heat buildup. If the winch had some sort of open air flow in the design (slots or louvers), I'd agree with you, but it's completely enclosed. The only effects that I could see from sealing it would be keeping moisture out and possible pressurization (negative in cold weather, positive when the winch is hot), but I don't see how that would hurt anything either (not enough volume of air space inside a winch to build a significant amount).

As far as Warn not using sealant from the factory... Warn also supplies pretty small power cables from the factory. They work, but they heat up and cause the motor to heat up quicker as well. I've never used a set of power cables that came with a winch. I've always used heavier guage welding wire. Anytime an item is mass produced, there are trade-offs made for cost and manufacturability vs. product quality. Please don't look at this as an attack on Warn (or you Jerry). I am a firm believer in Warn winches (I own two of them), but they're still a company and their primary goal is to make money.

To look at it another way, Jeep didn't insall Warn winches, lifts, 33 inch tires and etc. on YJs from the factory either. They work fine without them, but they work better in certain environments with them.

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Unread 10-28-2011, 02:18 PM   #62
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To RTV or Not to RTV, that is the Question! How about some Input from WARN Customer Service? I don't see a problem with it.... On both questions.
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Unread 10-29-2011, 08:24 AM   #63
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To RTV or Not to RTV, that is the Question! How about some Input from WARN Customer Service? I don't see a problem with it.... On both questions.
I don't think that sealing up the motor would be a bad thing but I'll still send Warn a question and see what they say. Ironically enough I did my engineering co-op at an electric motor manufacturing plant (Reliance Electric). Depending on the customer we had motors with open frames (louvers) for ventilation and others that were sealed (explosion proof ones too). It really depended on the customer and application. A lot of them went to mining, others to sewage facilities and even more to run huge fans for ventilation systems. If the motor was in a harsh environment the customer usually wanted them sealed up.

I'll still send Warn a question and see what they say.
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Unread 10-29-2011, 10:34 AM   #64
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I don't think that sealing up the motor would be a bad thing but I'll still send Warn a question and see what they say. Ironically enough I did my engineering co-op at an electric motor manufacturing plant (Reliance Electric). Depending on the customer we had motors with open frames (louvers) for ventilation and others that were sealed (explosion proof ones too). It really depended on the customer and application. A lot of them went to mining, others to sewage facilities and even more to run huge fans for ventilation systems. If the motor was in a harsh environment the customer usually wanted them sealed up.

I'll still send Warn a question and see what they say.
Exactly! I have an explosion proof motor running here in my Septic System..... If WARN wanted theirs to be vented.....
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Unread 10-30-2011, 06:17 PM   #65
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I want to give a huge thanks to Ray (1HouseMouse) for sending me the heavy duty trailer plug and socket. It's beefy and should work great. All I need to do is open up the hole on the control box cover. We have a filing station at work so it won't take too long. I plan on sealing the socket to the cover with some RTV and drill some new holes. I have some stainless steel socket head cap screws (10-32 I think) to mount it.





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Unread 10-31-2011, 06:35 PM   #66
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Well I got the control box done and everything wired up. I just need to bolt up the winch and attached the leads. The heavy duty trailer plug and socket worked great. I've attached a pics below. All I had to do was file out the hole where the other plug was and I put some self tapping screws in the housing. I'll need to wire the plug to the remote but I'm not sure which wires control in and out. I think my buddy has my voltmeter so I'll just have to do a little trial and error.









I also got a response from Warn sealing the electric motor. Pretty much what I expected though.

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We have not done a sealed version of that winch model and could not say what you were up against without testing such a configuration.
If it is fully sealed you would run into issues of the gases created during use not being able to escape.
If partially sealed and the wrong drain hole on the bottom of the motor was sealed the water could enter but not escape.

You will need to look at how you plan on doing this and then test your configuration to make sure it is not causing other issues.

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Well I'm 99% done. I just need to put some wire rope on the drum. The trailer plug and socket works great and the winch works good (from what I can tell).





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Louie, you did an absolutely amazing and totally thorough rebuild. VERY nice job man, Kudos to you!
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Louie, you did an absolutely amazing and totally thorough rebuild. VERY nice job man, Kudos to you!
Thanks guys! I appreciate everyone's help and support.

When I get a new wire rope installed I'll post the final pic.
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If it works half as good as it looks, you're in business...

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Thanks! The true test will be soon enough when I'm at Morris Mountain ORV park.

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Thanks guys! I appreciate everyone's help and support.

When I get a new wire rope installed I'll post the final pic.
Do you need a brand new Warn wire rope from a new M8000? Let me know, I've got one that is available...and a new roller fairlead too.

Anyhow, nice work...good way to save some $$$.
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Do you need a brand new Warn wire rope from a new M8000? Let me know, I've got one that is available...and a new roller fairlead too.

Anyhow, nice work...good way to save some $$$.
Dang!

I just bought one from Piercesales.com this morning. I ended up getting 5/16" x 100' without a hook shipped for $61. I would have definitely taken you up on the offer. Thanks again though.
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