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post #1 of 17 Old 12-25-2006, 01:12 PM Thread Starter
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anti theft winch

I know that there have been numerous discussions about this, but I am looking for one particular post about it.


My wife was kind enough to hook me up with a new winch for x-mas, now I am concerned about mounting it so that it will make it harder to get swiped.

I am aware of the tuffy bolt locks, but I would like to make it harder to get all the bolts out, and I do not want to spend the money for 4 of the tuffy bolt locks at 35 dollars each. I could just get one of the bolt locks, but I would sleep better knowing all 4 bolts are protected.

about a month ago or so, someone was kind enough to post pics/diagrams of a setup where they used metal "c" channel to cover the bolts to prevent a wrench from being able to get to the bolt heads. when you wanted to remove the bolts, you would have to grind off the top of the c-channel to expose the bolt heads.


anyone remember this post?


as a plan-B, I have heard of people hitting the bottom of the bolt threads with a tack weld to basically ruin the threads to prevent someone from removing the bolt. someone mentioned that by doing this, it could effect the integrity of the bolt and make it weaker.

I know nothing will make it theft proof, I just want to slow them down enough to give me time to get the gun out of the safe.


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post #2 of 17 Old 12-25-2006, 01:57 PM
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well I have had my winch on since 1999 and it's still on. Why not just do 2 kitty corner from each other that should be more than enough to deter people.
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If ya do a search on the web, there is a place that sell's anti-theft, bolts and nuts....similer to the Barrie Nuts used to keep fog lights secure...you can just replace the regular nuts with the security ones and your set to go....

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post #4 of 17 Old 12-25-2006, 02:10 PM
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Put the bolts in, then use a slightly oversized socket and an impact gun to round them off nice and smooth. Nobody will steal your winch.
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post #5 of 17 Old 12-25-2006, 02:17 PM
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a Friend of mine just welded a piece of metal, across the top of the head of both bolts, on each side, it would take quite bit of work to remove them, which should keep your basic thieves away, but like anything else if they want it bad enough, theres nothing you can do to stop them.( well almost, 9mm seem to work )

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Weld the nuts and bolts to eachother... it makes it tough to unscrew them that way

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use red locktite on a couple of the bolts----takes some torch heat to break the nuts from the bolts--its quick
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post #8 of 17 Old 12-25-2006, 05:53 PM
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use red locktite on a couple of the bolts----takes some torch heat to break the nuts from the bolts--its quick
That's actually how I did mine. Some naysayer's scoffed at the idea of Loctite. However, if your threads are clean when you put it on the red stuff on the bolt isn't gonna be taken out with a ratchet. It will take a torch to loosen up the threadlocker.
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post #9 of 17 Old 12-25-2006, 09:26 PM Thread Starter
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use red locktite on a couple of the bolts----takes some torch heat to break the nuts from the bolts--its quick


should a monster breaker bar be able to crack the seal on the red locktite?

I used some before (maybe I installed it wrong) and it was easy to crack with a 18inch breaker bar. I am not calling you out or anything, but if the red will do the job, then that would make things much much easier.

I may go with one of the tuffy bolt locks, and locktite on all four bolts.

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I got a warn for Xmas too and i think im just going to mount it and then weld the bolts
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post #11 of 17 Old 12-26-2006, 07:47 AM
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Use epoxy , as crazy as this idea sounds use torx or allen head bolts (and no I don't like torx bolts )get the hardest epoxy you can get an fill the bolt head so its flush.when someone tries to steal it they have to use a pipe wrench or vise grips, most thieves don't want the extra trouble.
Basicly it just keeps the honest people honest.
If you need to remove it ....drill out the center of the epoxy and use a chisel or screw driver to get the rest out .

I''ve been using this for 15 yrs and never had my winch stolen......they did get the Jeep last year .
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about a month ago or so, someone was kind enough to post pics/diagrams of a setup where they used metal "c" channel to cover the bolts to prevent a wrench from being able to get to the bolt heads. when you wanted to remove the bolts, you would have to grind off the top of the c-channel to expose the bolt heads.


anyone remember this post?
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showt...33#post1718533

Is that the sort of thing you were thinking of?
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post #13 of 17 Old 12-26-2006, 10:40 AM
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I got a warn for Xmas too and i think im just going to mount it and then weld the bolts
Better to weld a piece of scrap steel over the top of a bolt or two to serve as a barrier. Welding the bolts really isn't a good idea as doing so can ruin their heat treatment and weaken them. Not to mention the fact grinding the welds off so a socket wrench can fit onto the bolt again is easier said than done.

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post #14 of 17 Old 12-26-2006, 10:44 AM
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Since my winch has been on my jeep since 79 when I bought them new I haven't worried too much about this part. I have been reading the threads where then punks srung the cable over the hard top. I have some D rings on the front and thought about locking the cable loop to one of them.

I know a smart person could still pull the cable out, but with the end locked they minght not think that far.
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post #15 of 17 Old 12-26-2006, 03:00 PM Thread Starter
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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showt...33#post1718533

Is that the sort of thing you were thinking of?

pyro, that is exactly the post i was referring to.

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