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Unread 03-18-2008, 07:52 PM   #6046
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Thats exactly what I do. No reason to spend all the money when its generally the same stuff. There are only so many refineries in the world making gear oil. Just like everything else, its most likely the same product with a different label slapped on it.

I bought the Kragen brand gear oil.

I still get a quality oil filter. The thing is it doesn't need to be spendy. You can get the purilator plus, which is one of the highest rated, for $4. Thats cheaper than the crappy Fram ones.
I get the K&N oil filter with the little thing you can put a wrench on to get it off. I havent taken it off yet, but when i do ill let you guys know if its nice to have the thing to take it off with a wrench. Its a cool lookin oil filter atleast.

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Unread 03-18-2008, 07:58 PM   #6047
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Sorry Jason,i have been really busy.Its alot harder than i thought taking a 20 year old golf cart apart.I did grab both sets of seats,hope thats ok.I am good for next week.I get my axles tonight,so right after that run i going to start the swap.
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Unread 03-18-2008, 08:22 PM   #6048
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Sorry Jason,i have been really busy.Its alot harder than i thought taking a 20 year old golf cart apart.I did grab both sets of seats,hope thats ok.I am good for next week.I get my axles tonight,so right after that run i going to start the swap.
Imagine working on a 20 year old Jeep...

I don't care about the seats. At least they'll get used. I just thought it was funny that you responded to the craigslist ad and didn't ask when you were here!
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Unread 03-18-2008, 08:27 PM   #6049
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Imagine working on a 20 year old Jeep...

I don't care about the seats. At least they'll get used. I just thought it was funny that you responded to the craigslist ad and didn't ask when you were here!
Or a +20 year old generator that has sat outside near the ocean for that long.
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Unread 03-18-2008, 08:35 PM   #6050
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Thats exactly what I do. No reason to spend all the money when its generally the same stuff. There are only so many refineries in the world making gear oil. Just like everything else, its most likely the same product with a different label slapped on it.

I bought the Kragen brand gear oil.

I still get a quality oil filter. The thing is it doesn't need to be spendy. You can get the purilator plus, which is one of the highest rated, for $4. Thats cheaper than the crappy Fram ones.
Let me ask you Jason, do you have the same outlook on your brand new car and truck? It's all relative. I believe you got your YJ for free or close to it, and your car and truck were at least 25K each or more,so your mind set to protect your low dollar investment vs your high dollar investment vehicles is going to be drasticaly different. I have $20k sticker + $10K upgrades=$30K investment in my 05 TJ, so I do the research and buy the "name brand" fluids that have been proven in comparison studies for maintanace. I use to have a 81 CJ that i picked up for $1K and did the exact same as you with the maintanace. Neither way is wrong, both methods are right.
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Unread 03-18-2008, 09:09 PM   #6051
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Let me ask you Jason, do you have the same outlook on your brand new car and truck? It's all relative. I believe you got your YJ for free or close to it, and your car and truck were at least 25K each or more,so your mind set to protect your low dollar investment vs your high dollar investment vehicles is going to be drasticaly different. I have $20k sticker + $10K upgrades=$30K investment in my 05 TJ, so I do the research and buy the "name brand" fluids that have been proven in comparison studies for maintanace. I use to have a 81 CJ that i picked up for $1K and did the exact same as you with the maintanace. Neither way is wrong, both methods are right.
Well, the problem with the Jetta (which I wish I knew before I bought ) is that it takes only synthetic fluids and premium gas. So there is really no penny pinch'n to be had there. Its all pricey. With the Nissan, to be honest its only needed one oil change since I've owned it! So, I did just go with some basic Casrol GTX 10W30 motor oil and a average filter. Nothing fancy needed. Its rarely driven and when it is its usually highway and nothing severe.

Now as far as the Jeep goes, yep; I paid a whoppin' $400! I don't treat it as if its just a piece of junk though. If anything I take better care of the Jeep because I don't wanna break down out in the middle of nowhere. My theory on it is - more expensive doesn't necessarily mean better. For example; the Purolator oil filter. I researched and found it to be one of the better oil filters on the market. Not the best, but then again, this isn't a Corvette. Its a good quality product at a good price. There are some things I refuse to go way above and beyond on. There is no need to use Royal Purple in a Jeep (especially mine), no matter where you put it. It really cracks me up when people use high dollar ATF in their transfer case when its nothing more than a chain bath.

Anyway, if people feel more comfortable using the premium fluids and what not, hey more power to ya. Nothing wrong with it at all. I just haven't seen enough data to show that they improve performance enough to justify the cost.... except the royal purple website
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Unread 03-18-2008, 09:12 PM   #6052
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I get the K&N oil filter with the little thing you can put a wrench on to get it off. I havent taken it off yet, but when i do ill let you guys know if its nice to have the thing to take it off with a wrench. Its a cool lookin oil filter atleast.
I get the exact same one Eric, I just changed my oil over the weekend and it did help me since the last oil change was done at a shop and the mechanic over tightened the filter. I used my big chanel locks and it twisted right off.
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Unread 03-18-2008, 09:13 PM   #6053
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Let me ask you Jason, do you have the same outlook on your brand new car and truck? It's all relative. I believe you got your YJ for free or close to it, and your car and truck were at least 25K each or more,so your mind set to protect your low dollar investment vs your high dollar investment vehicles is going to be drasticaly different. I have $20k sticker + $10K upgrades=$30K investment in my 05 TJ, so I do the research and buy the "name brand" fluids that have been proven in comparison studies for maintanace. I use to have a 81 CJ that i picked up for $1K and did the exact same as you with the maintanace. Neither way is wrong, both methods are right.

I agree with every word. But, no matter how good the oil that talc like dust gets in and cruds it up. I have changed my oil twice since christmas and the air filter 2-3 times in the same period. Also for me, the jeep is not my DD so if I put on 5000 miles, 4000 was probably offroad. Just my 2 cents but I think good clean oil is better under those conditions than dirty $5/ qt synthetic.
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Unread 03-18-2008, 09:21 PM   #6054
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Now as far as the Jeep goes, yep; I paid a whoppin' $400! I don't treat it as if its just a piece of junk though. If anything I take better care of the Jeep because I don't wanna break down out in the middle of nowhere. My theory on it is - more expensive doesn't necessarily mean better. For example; the Purolator oil filter. I researched and found it to be one of the better oil filters on the market. Not the best, but then again, this isn't a Corvette. Its a good quality product at a good price. There are some things I refuse to go way above and beyond on. There is no need to use Royal Purple in a Jeep (especially mine), no matter where you put it. It really cracks me up when people use high dollar ATF in their transfer case when its nothing more than a chain bath.

Anyway, if people feel more comfortable using the premium fluids and what not, hey more power to ya. Nothing wrong with it at all. I just haven't seen enough data to show that they improve performance enough to justify the cost.... except the royal purple website

I haven't done an ATF change yet but will soon. Royal Purple is produced in Saudi Arabia,LOL i think cause they charge way to much for motor oil. However I am guilty of buying their gear oil....after my 4.56's and Aussie were installed. Above and beyond is a good way to look at it, but I look at it as better safe than sorry, knowing how much my parts were the 1st time I bought em makes me reluctant to chance buying them all over again just to save a couple bucks on lubrication.
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Unread 03-18-2008, 09:22 PM   #6055
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I get the exact same one Eric, I just changed my oil over the weekend and it did help me since the last oil change was done at a shop and the mechanic over tightened the filter. I used my big chanel locks and it twisted right off.
It seems like they always over tighten the crap outta those filters. Every time I go to do the oil after my wife has taken it to a shop I swear they've torqued the damn thing 250 ft-lbs. Its crazy!
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Unread 03-18-2008, 09:26 PM   #6056
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It seems like they always over tighten the crap outta those filters. Every time I go to do the oil after my wife has taken it to a shop I swear they've torqued the damn thing 250 ft-lbs. Its crazy!
Dude I was in my engine bay, only had one leg out on my front tire, both hands on the filter, gruntin and groanin and it wouldn't budge, I had to crawl under it and get more leverage with my locks to get it off, it was HIGH larious.
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Unread 03-18-2008, 10:17 PM   #6057
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I'm heading to Kragen right now to buy the fluids. Doing it this afternoon because I'm broke.
Did you end up changing the fluid or just buying them? I just got on the forum after another busy afternoon. I did have time to fix my door lock though.
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Did you end up changing the fluid or just buying them? I just got on the forum after another busy afternoon. I did have time to fix my door lock though.
I did the front differential and called it a day. This way I have something to do tomorrow.

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