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post #35431 of 40285 Old 01-26-2014, 10:55 PM
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Alright guys, I have this coming saturday off. I am going to be ordering some upper rear control arms. I want to have a wrenching party so I can get the 8.8 slung under the Jeep while installing a SYE into my TC, and putting in the new driveshaft.

The 8.8 needs to have some holes filled in the axles tubes, so if somebody could help me out there that would be great. My dad has gas mig welder. I think it may need gas, but I can probably handle that.

It's a day before my birthday, so I figure we can have a prebirthday wrenching party.

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post #35432 of 40285 Old 01-27-2014, 11:14 AM
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That wasn't so hard. $15 for the DOM

I'm inclined to not care about balancing it. There's 100% chance I'll bend it again and even the slightest bend would counteract any balancing. I ground the welds just to make the amount above the tube the same all around.

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How about solid stock with sleeves? How thick wall is that tubing? I have built axles from solid (as long as you use the right material) and they can be pretty tough.

What I found was even stronger was a solid stock bar and a DOM tube that fits over it and rosette welded in a bunch of places. I have found this to be stronger than just plain solid tube, however I dont know why exactly, I would have thought a larger solid tube would be better, but when I did it it wasnt.

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post #35433 of 40285 Old 01-27-2014, 11:25 AM
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How about solid stock with sleeves? How thick wall is that tubing? I have built axles from solid (as long as you use the right material) and they can be pretty tough.

What I found was even stronger was a solid stock bar and a DOM tube that fits over it and rosette welded in a bunch of places. I have found this to be stronger than just plain solid tube, however I dont know why exactly, I would have thought a larger solid tube would be better, but when I did it it wasnt.

Just throwing it out there from my experience

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Just tossing this out there. wouldn't you want to keep your shaft on the weaker side as not to have it so strong you damage everything it connects to?
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post #35434 of 40285 Old 01-27-2014, 11:32 AM
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How about solid stock with sleeves? How thick wall is that tubing? I have built axles from solid (as long as you use the right material) and they can be pretty tough.

What I found was even stronger was a solid stock bar and a DOM tube that fits over it and rosette welded in a bunch of places. I have found this to be stronger than just plain solid tube, however I dont know why exactly, I would have thought a larger solid tube would be better, but when I did it it wasnt.

Just throwing it out there from my experience

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Looks to be about 1/4 thick. For some reason a tube seems to be stronger than a solid bar of the same size; I'm sure there is science involved.

The original stock driveshaft was a 1" solid bar. There is a real space issue with the auto trans. The first shaft I got from Tom Woods was a 2" tube and it hit the exhaust constantly.

In any case, if this works out ok I'm going to re-tube the other one I have and keep a spare in the RV. I have generally only bent one severely about once a year.

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Looks to be about 1/4 thick. For some reason a tube seems to be stronger than a solid bar of the same size; I'm sure there is science involved.

The original stock driveshaft was a 1" solid bar. There is a real space issue with the auto trans. The first shaft I got from Tom Woods was a 2" tube and it hit the exhaust constantly.

In any case, if this works out ok I'm going to re-tube the other one I have and keep a spare in the RV. I have generally only bent one severely about once a year.
Mine is 1-3/4" tube and only really hits rocks. I seem to go through one every time I go wheeling.
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post #35436 of 40285 Old 01-27-2014, 11:55 AM
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skip to 3:11.. you wont see that ever again! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxpN0NDXtaU
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i can seriously waste a whole day watching those guys destroy their rigs. good stuff

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post #35438 of 40285 Old 01-27-2014, 01:18 PM
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i can seriously waste a whole day watching those guys destroy their rigs. good stuff
You can waste a whole day looking at butterflies too.
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post #35439 of 40285 Old 01-27-2014, 02:59 PM
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So today I pulled my jeep out of garage to go for a drive. Got to about 10 mph and I feel/hear this click click click and vibe in my trans shifter. WTH? After about 20 minutes of troubleshooting I cant find it but its in my drivetrain. not there in neutral while rolling. not my brakes or axles. I sure hope it's not my tranny.... So i pull it back into the garage and tear out my rear driveshaft. I notice it has a lot of play in the splines. I can move it quite a bit by hand in a twisting motion and when it was still in the jeep i had a lot of slop from the cardine to the axle yoke. So I pull the shaft, lock the front hubs, put it in 4hi and take it out again. Click/clack and vibe is gone...
SO I assume its my rear DS. Question is could it be in my Tcase? Will a bad case at the rear not be evident while only running with the front shaft? It's a 231. The DS is a HD Currie with a HD Currie SYE kit. So I go to their site to price a new shaft. Guess what? They dont sell my style shaft anymore. Now its something else.. LOVELY.
Does anyone have a currie shaft I can throw on for 10 minutes to troubleshoot before I run out and replace my whole damn jeep! Heres what the shaft looks like as well as the sye.
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I think I have a spare rear shaft like that, I'll look when I get home.

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Mine is 1-3/4" tube and only really hits rocks. I seem to go through one every time I go wheeling.
.... and large logs....

...bent front drive shaft in 4....3...2....



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.... and large logs....

...bent front drive shaft in 4....3...2....


That was a fun trip.

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That was a fun trip.
Yes it was.

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post #35444 of 40285 Old 01-27-2014, 05:16 PM
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ok so the prognosis is this...feels like either a crapped out planetary gear or bearing in the tcase or something in my tranny. Seemed perfect only running the front DS though so ruling out the rear end and the tranny. Good time to just get that 3.8 atlas i've always wanted....God I HATE not knowing for sure what something is and also not planning on a repair/upgrade.
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You can waste a whole day looking at butterflies too.
There's a lot of truth to that statement. lol

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