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post #35401 of 40646 Old 01-24-2014, 07:53 PM
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yikes. glad your safe. at least you could of done was drive your bumper into the goons rearend! I would of

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post #35402 of 40646 Old 01-24-2014, 08:01 PM
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So today, there I was, just cruising along minding my own business, obeying CVC laws, listening to Barry Manilow (not really)...
I had to make a panic stop because some doosh nozzle decided to change lanes and stop in front of me. I slammed on the brakes so hard the rubber brake line on the right front caliper exploded at the fitting. Pop, then the peddle went to the floor immediately. Fortunately I was able to spin the steering wheel fast enough to go into the lane he came out of and missed him by a layer of paint. I wanted to get out and crush his gonads into his pelvic bone, but I was more concerned about my Jeep now sitting in the middle of the intersection.
Fortunately I was close to home and just used first and second gears and the e-brake to nurse it home. I may have gotten a gray hair or two from that one.
So, upgraded brake lines here I come. Already did the rears with the 8.8 install. Leads on lines anyone?
funny, as I was reading this i was thinking to myself "well, on the brighter side of things he has an excuse now for upgrades" then i saw the last sentance in your post. lol

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post #35403 of 40646 Old 01-24-2014, 08:12 PM
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So today, there I was, just cruising along minding my own business, obeying CVC laws, listening to Barry Manilow (not really)...
I had to make a panic stop because some doosh nozzle decided to change lanes and stop in front of me. I slammed on the brakes so hard the rubber brake line on the right front caliper exploded at the fitting. Pop, then the peddle went to the floor immediately. Fortunately I was able to spin the steering wheel fast enough to go into the lane he came out of and missed him by a layer of paint. I wanted to get out and crush his gonads into his pelvic bone, but I was more concerned about my Jeep now sitting in the middle of the intersection.
Fortunately I was close to home and just used first and second gears and the e-brake to nurse it home. I may have gotten a gray hair or two from that one.
So, upgraded brake lines here I come. Already did the rears with the 8.8 install. Leads on lines anyone?
Basing a guess on the age of the one that failed, a simple replacement of it with a new version would be quite the upgrade. Your system doesn't generate enough power to warrant anything else and it didn't fail because of the construction, it failed due to age, abuse, or some combination thereof. Contrary to what the internet would have you believe, stainless steel braided lines are not really an upgrade, are far more susceptible to abuse and not nearly as forgiving as the stock or OEM flex hoses.

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post #35404 of 40646 Old 01-24-2014, 08:23 PM
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in relation to age, he's a lot older than his jeep is. Im surprised he didnt pop an artery. I to agree that no matter how hard you stand on the brakes, nothing should fail and the line is just old.
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post #35405 of 40646 Old 01-24-2014, 09:50 PM
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Contrary to what the internet would have you believe, stainless steel braided lines are not really an upgrade, are far more susceptible to abuse and not nearly as forgiving as the stock or OEM flex hoses.

Ain't that the truth, damage the brading on the stainless steel brake hoses and they pop like an over ripe pimple.

By the way said old rectangular headlight outfitted jalopy should have retained some brake function since it has a dual brake system. Even with a very low brake pedal it would still have rear brakes unless due to lack of maintenance the rear wheel cylinder pistons are frozen in their bores

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post #35406 of 40646 Old 01-24-2014, 10:19 PM
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Basing a guess on the age of the one that failed, a simple replacement of it with a new version would be quite the upgrade. Your system doesn't generate enough power to warrant anything else and it didn't fail because of the construction, it failed due to age, abuse, or some combination thereof. Contrary to what the internet would have you believe, stainless steel braided lines are not really an upgrade, are far more susceptible to abuse and not nearly as forgiving as the stock or OEM flex hoses.
Yeah I'm not sure how old they were. There came off a '95 Jeep when I change the front axle to a '95 with 4:10's.
Interesting you say that about the SS lines. I have also seen Kevlar ones. I am assuming they are a SS line with a Kevlar coating.
Somebody posted the GM 1500 truck uses the same hose but three inches longer. Can you confirm? If so I will just get those from NAPA or such.

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in relation to age, he's a lot older than his jeep is. Im surprised he didnt pop an artery. I to agree that no matter how hard you stand on the brakes, nothing should fail and the line is just old.
Old jokes at a time like this? After the major trauma I went through you make jokes? YOU are older than my Jeep is! lol
I looked at the line and there is no visible sighs of wear, stretching, dry rot, etc... But yeah, probably almost as old as me.

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Contrary to what the internet would have you believe, stainless steel braided lines are not really an upgrade, are far more susceptible to abuse and not nearly as forgiving as the stock or OEM flex hoses.

Ain't that the truth, damage the brading on the stainless steel brake hoses and they pop like an over ripe pimple.

By the way said old rectangular headlight outfitted jalopy should have retained some brake function since it has a dual brake system. Even with a very low brake pedal it would still have rear brakes unless due to lack of maintenance the rear wheel cylinder pistons are frozen in their bores
Thanks for the "over ripe pimple" graphic. I just had sour cream and guacamole on my enchalada. That helped the digestion.
RE the rear end... about three years ago I installed a Ford 8.8 with disc brakes. I turned the rotors, rebuilt the calipers and installed new pads and new shoes on the e-brake before I installed it. I did not take the portioning valve out because it stopped with all fours just fine. Does the '88 Wrangler have a dual brake master? I thought that was later models that had that. Not sure.
And Jalopy or not, I love my YJ.

EDIT: Got hooked up with the thread about the Chevy 1500 brake lines.
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1990 Chevy 1500
and they are four inches longer than stock.
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Thanks for the "over ripe pimple" graphic. I just had sour cream and guacamole on my enchalada. That helped the digestion.

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post #35408 of 40646 Old 01-25-2014, 12:34 AM
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This full of win

Thanks for the "over ripe pimple" graphic. I just had sour cream and guacamole on my enchalada. That helped the digestion.


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post #35409 of 40646 Old 01-25-2014, 09:33 AM
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By the way said old rectangular headlight outfitted jalopy should have retained some brake function since it has a dual brake system. Even with a very low brake pedal it would still have rear brakes unless due to lack of maintenance the rear wheel cylinder pistons are frozen in their bores
Yes, the shuttle valve in the combo valve can be shifted to close off the leaking circuit. Unfortunately that generally requires several pumps of the brake pedal to get the differential pressure to shift it and close off the circuit and it's not always easy to do or well known how to accomplish.

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post #35410 of 40646 Old 01-25-2014, 10:14 AM
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So today, there I was, just cruising along minding my own business, obeying CVC laws, listening to Barry Manilow (not really)...
I had to make a panic stop because some doosh nozzle decided to change lanes and stop in front of me. I slammed on the brakes so hard the rubber brake line on the right front caliper exploded at the fitting. Pop, then the peddle went to the floor immediately. Fortunately I was able to spin the steering wheel fast enough to go into the lane he came out of and missed him by a layer of paint. I wanted to get out and crush his gonads into his pelvic bone, but I was more concerned about my Jeep now sitting in the middle of the intersection.
Fortunately I was close to home and just used first and second gears and the e-brake to nurse it home. I may have gotten a gray hair or two from that one.
So, upgraded brake lines here I come. Already did the rears with the 8.8 install. Leads on lines anyone?
Hope you had yer depends on.
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post #35411 of 40646 Old 01-25-2014, 11:11 AM
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Rik for the Chevy 1500 lines you will need to grind the edge of the square base that attaches to the caliper, I am running these on my zj.

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post #35413 of 40646 Old 01-25-2014, 12:11 PM
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Rik for the Chevy 1500 lines you will need to grind the edge of the square base that attaches to the caliper, I am running these on my zj.
Thanks for the info.

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post #35415 of 40646 Old 01-26-2014, 03:35 PM
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Damn synthetic winch lines are expensive. Looking at the Viking 3/8 100' with safety thimble and the 350 series fairlead.. Not cheap...
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