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post #34876 of 40195 Old 11-18-2013, 04:54 PM
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Up until a few months ago I was running old man emu springs and shocks.

After almost 5 years the springs were bent and sagged to the point of needing to be replaced. I went with BDS this time. Just about the same ride but they are a little taller so now the shocks are wrong and acting as a limiting strap for down travel.

I measured the distance mount-to-mount for the shocks with the jeep on jack stands and the axles hanging free.

My question is this. Is there any reason to have the shocks be longer than that? In other words if one tire is up and one down or some other situation where the springs can droop or be pushed down even lower? I know some guys take off the spring clamps and I assume that means a lower droop, but is there a downside to doing that?


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post #34877 of 40195 Old 11-18-2013, 05:36 PM
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I have fewer clamps than most on mine and a few of them have twisted out a little and you know how I baby my rig.
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I would have to say that it's good practice to give the shock more extension than your suspension gives. Even at an inch. You don't want your shocks bottoming out 1st. Same with compression. Give it about an inch minimum. Limit the movement up and down by bumpstops and either limit straps or your leafs. Just get some reservoirs and be done....
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Up until a few months ago I was running old man emu springs and shocks.

After almost 5 years the springs were bent and sagged to the point of needing to be replaced. I went with BDS this time. Just about the same ride but they are a little taller so now the shocks are wrong and acting as a limiting strap for down travel.

I measured the distance mount-to-mount for the shocks with the jeep on jack stands and the axles hanging free.

My question is this. Is there any reason to have the shocks be longer than that? In other words if one tire is up and one down or some other situation where the springs can droop or be pushed down even lower? I know some guys take off the spring clamps and I assume that means a lower droop, but is there a downside to doing that?
yes. if your shocks are mounted outboard of the springs, articulation will mean more shock travel is necessary.

a good way to set it up is about 1" of shock shaft showing with both sides of the axle at full bump, and 1" left with both sides at full droop.

I have spent countless hours measuring my shocks at full bump/droop to maximize travel and that is how it has worked out for me.
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what they said. i wouldnt take off the clamps on your shocks, thats bad news. i have some limit straps in the garage you can have too if you want.

I finally got a locker, and its in transit. hope to pick it up along with my gears on Friday so i can get my junk back on the trail. hopefully we can thrash up my body beyond repair this season so i have an excuse to chop the top and cage.

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Right now the rears have about 1/2 of extra down travel. The front was nearly 2" too short

Apparently they are called rebound clips and the primary purpose is to prevent "fanning" , or the ends twisting out of alignment side to side. Seems like the clip could be removed on one end but I guess I'll leave them alone for now.
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what they said. i wouldnt take off the clamps on your shocks, thats bad news. i have some limit straps in the garage you can have too if you want.

I finally got a locker, and its in transit. hope to pick it up along with my gears on Friday so i can get my junk back on the trail. hopefully we can thrash up my body beyond repair this season so i have an excuse to chop the top and cage.
You mean you want to add some beauty marks like Climbit did this weekend?
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Drooling until next yr......... 6" Genright stretch and this bad boy are on my To do list:
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Drooling until next yr......... 6" Genright stretch and this bad boy are on my To do list:
Easy stuff.


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Xpress those are coil Springs you hate those remember....?

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You mean you want to add some beauty marks like Climbit did this weekend?
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post #34890 of 40195 Old 11-19-2013, 06:51 AM
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Drooling until next yr......... 6" Genright stretch and this bad boy are on my To do list:
As long as you understand that an off the shelf 6" stretch won't give you 6" more wheelbase than what it was stock, you're golden.

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