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Unread 08-14-2013, 06:32 PM   #33676
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neither of those will work. let me see if i can find a factory replacement for you. Someone else might chime in too. probably won't get that till tomrrow though as i'm about to head to dinner with the mrs. apparently i need to have time away from jeeps and jeep things every now and then lol

http://www.rockauto.com/
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you can get OEM track bars there for fairly inexpensive.

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Unread 08-14-2013, 06:43 PM   #33677
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neither of those will work. let me see if i can find a factory replacement for you. Someone else might chime in too. probably won't get that till tomrrow though as i'm about to head to dinner with the mrs. apparently i need to have time away from jeeps and jeep things every now and then lol

http://www.rockauto.com/
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you can get OEM track bars there for fairly inexpensive.
Thanks. I realized its probably just a normal tre. Still gonna get bushings for the lower mount while I'm at it.
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Unread 08-14-2013, 09:40 PM   #33678
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The entire bar is one entire piece. You can't unscrew the TRE. How stupid is that.

However, the TRE feels pretty tight. There is no in and out movement and the rolling movement it's designed to do feels tight as well. it doesn't wiggle at all if you take your finger and thumb and apply back and forth pressure.
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Unread 08-14-2013, 09:48 PM   #33679
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Too soon for me. My little sister's birthday bash is that day. Following weekend is my belt promotion.
September will be the earliest for me. I'm anxious to get back out to Anza Borrego again. I love that place. Needs to cool down a bit tho'.
My birthday is Sept 20. I'm thinking BB if I can get the cabin. You're all invited.
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Unread 08-14-2013, 10:31 PM   #33680
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I'd eat the crap out of that.

I also like; PBB sandwiches and PB and Nutella sandwiches
I went to a carnival once and they had deep fried PBJ sammiches. Amazing.
I love PBJ on Hawaiian rolls too.
But if you are a REAL PBJ connoisseur, you will make your PBJ sammiches on French toast.
I have made them in one of those pie cookers over a campfire too. I would think a waffle iron would work also.
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Unread 08-14-2013, 10:34 PM   #33681
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next time you're in downtown San Diego.

Cafe 222's Peanut Butter & Banana French Toast

http://chefdebbie.blogspot.com/2009/...na-french.html
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Unread 08-14-2013, 10:41 PM   #33682
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PBJ with French toast is good. Something about melty PB. Much better than not melted.


Guys, are TRE's suppose to move at all by hand? I can move the one on the track bar by hand and its not too difficult.
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Unread 08-14-2013, 11:25 PM   #33683
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Guys, are TRE's suppose to move at all by hand? I can move the one on the track bar by hand and its not too difficult.
We diagnose issues as a system visually and systematically since its not an easy thing to do over the internet.

EG: You mentioned "by hand". Your by hand will most likely be different than others, so the results will vary.
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Unread 08-14-2013, 11:30 PM   #33684
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We diagnose issues as a system visually and systematically since its not an easy thing to do over the internet.

EG: You mentioned "by hand". Your by hand will most likely be different than others, so the results will vary.
Yeah I understand. Is there a general rule of thumb when it comes to testing these outside of the vehicle?
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Unread 08-15-2013, 09:14 AM   #33685
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are you talking about melted pbnj sandwiches or TRE's? If it's TRE's youtube can be your friend if you watch a view video's. This is the 1st one I came across. Pardon the fact that he's a dork, he's Canadian, and it's a Honda but a TRE is a TRE...
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Unread 08-15-2013, 09:20 AM   #33686
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are you talking about melted pbnj sandwiches or TRE's? If it's TRE's youtube can be your friend if you watch a view video's. This is the 1st one I came across. Pardon the fact that he's a dork, he's Canadian, and it's a Honda but a TRE is a TRE...
Melting pbnj sammiches on a TRE..........hmmmmmmm
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Unread 08-15-2013, 09:26 AM   #33687
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PBJ with French toast is good. Something about melty PB. Much better than not melted.


Guys, are TRE's suppose to move at all by hand? I can move the one on the track bar by hand and its not too difficult.
Aside from a busted grease boot, the one on my track bar was easily moved. I replaced it with an adjustable one from RE. That helped fixed my problems I was having. New TREs should be able to be moved by your hand, but not very easily. I could tell the difference in the old vs new TREs I put on my Jeep the other day.
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Unread 08-15-2013, 11:06 AM   #33688
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I saw the Canadians video. Good for normal TRE's but I found it hard to replicate that with an angled track bar.

The joint is stiff to move but probably far to easy from what I have heard around here. Ill order the new track bar. Thanks everyone.

Edit: Does anyone else's JF app give them a "phase error" when they try to open this thread? Really starting to bug me.

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Unread 08-15-2013, 11:20 AM   #33689
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Just out of interest, when you were saying it moves...would you say it moves in relation to A or B? Or both? A is OK so long as its firm and not just flopping around like a wet noodle. B is def NOT ok lol

I never use the app on my phone. its a real POS. i just use the website. works fine for me.

Things to check for Death Wobble:
track bar upper and lower
control arm bushings
caster angle
ball joints
tire balance
Drag link rod ends
tie rod, rod ends
sloppy steering box
stabilizer and brackets


While a stabilizer might mask the problem, it won't fix it. if suspension and steering are properly setup, you won't need one
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Unread 08-15-2013, 11:25 AM   #33690
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When in the vehicle with it running and the steering wheel turning back and forth the TRE moved in the B plane, up towards the engine and down towards the ground. It doesn't move like that outside of the vehicle though.


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