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post #32926 of 40472 Old 07-01-2013, 10:46 AM
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Thanks Blaine, brokenujoint & Climbit for the advise I'll go ahead and look for a compressor to activate only the lockers.

Just to clarify, my intention was to get a simple advice on what was the best source to activate a locker with. I never wanted to start an argument threat on what is better a York, ARB compressor or CO2 kit

But again I have only been in the wheeling community for 3 years and I still consider my self a noob. Compared to you guys that have 8+ years wheeling.

Thanks for advice!
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post #32927 of 40472 Old 07-01-2013, 11:19 AM
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It's not the years, it's the mileage that counts!
Practice beats theory 99% of the time.

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post #32928 of 40472 Old 07-01-2013, 11:22 AM
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Practice beats theory 99% of the time.
Damn straight! Years and miles of desert racing and dirt fixes will attest to that!

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post #32929 of 40472 Old 07-01-2013, 11:39 AM
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post #32930 of 40472 Old 07-01-2013, 12:03 PM
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You could just do an ARB compressor as mentioned but try to find it cheap. They are EXPENSIVE for what you get.. When I had my ARB put in like 12 yrs ago that compressor (and maybe they are better now) SUCKED A55!! If your gonna go that route just get a Viaar compressor.. Dont really care what anyone says, I love my york set up.
onboard air is a great thing to have. but having your locker system tied together with it is a bad move. what happens when your on board air system blows a line, or the pump overheats? or you get a leak in something that prevents you from getting the pressure necessary to lock an ARB? now your jeep is without lockers.

I've been running the ARB large compressor for ~2 years now. it does 2 things for me, it runs my lockers, and fills my tires at the end of the trip. I honestly would not have paid for the large compressor, but I got one brand new in box from a NAXJA member for less than the price of the small one. there is no risk to my locker system because the only thing the compressor does is run the lockers until I am done wheeling.
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post #32931 of 40472 Old 07-01-2013, 01:01 PM
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It's not the years, it's the mileage that counts!

Is that what you keep telling her?

I wanna' argue too!!
E-lockers, problem solved. Co2 tank for the tires or a Harbor Freight plug in the cigarette lighter compressor. If it fails, throw it away, buy and new one.
Or, just don't air down.
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Whatever story works!

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Is that what you keep telling her?

I wanna' argue too!!
E-lockers, problem solved. Co2 tank for the tires or a Harbor Freight plug in the cigarette lighter compressor. If it fails, throw it away, buy and new one.
Or, just don't air down.
We need a stirring the pot emoticon.
e-lockers break.
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post #32934 of 40472 Old 07-01-2013, 01:28 PM
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e-lockers break.
Is there any part on a Jeep that doesn't?

Air lines break, wires break, axles break (especially when you jump your Jeep), crap breaks all the time.
A lot of people run e-lockers problem free for miles and miles of trails.

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Kinda what I was thinking....hell even a bullet ain't bullet proof!

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post #32936 of 40472 Old 07-01-2013, 02:14 PM
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This is actually a rare debate (for SD forum) where actually no one is "arguing." Its good wholesome opinion. I run a detroit in the rear and an ARB up front. I only use the front when I HAVE to and otherwise try to keep it off. That doesnt defend the theory of broken lines (isnt that what would kill ANY ARB?). I remember the ARB compressor (at the time) was dog crap in way of airing my tires at the end of the day but it worked just fine for the 85-90 psi to keep the locker going. Maybe they have improved. I also had the VERY 1st batch of TeraFlex "adjustable control arm lift (1997)that was an utter failure keeping me from EVER buying Teraflex products again. If I recall, and it was a good 12-13 yrs ago now, I ditched the ARB compressor for the york because I liked the idea of being able to run up to 150psi on the trail continuously. Airing tires, running a cut off wheel, blowing out the jeep, blowing out the garage... etc. My system is so leak free that I can fill my little 2.5gal tank to about 120 psi and use the ARB ALL DAY. Maybe I'll keep a bicycle pump on stand by in case something fails. Which ever way you go Roberto, glad your getting some air.
I guess the readers digest version is
if you want to just run an ARB locker, get a simple electric compressor
if you want something that you can use for more than just that get a huge bottle of CO2 mount it somewhere or get a belt driven set up...

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post #32937 of 40472 Old 07-01-2013, 02:55 PM
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Thanks Blaine, brokenujoint & Climbit for the advise I'll go ahead and look for a compressor to activate only the lockers.

Just to clarify, my intention was to get a simple advice on what was the best source to activate a locker with. I never wanted to start an argument threat on what is better a York, ARB compressor or CO2 kit

But again I have only been in the wheeling community for 3 years and I still consider my self a noob. Compared to you guys that have 8+ years wheeling.

Thanks for advice!
If you do get the ARB, plumb the pressure switch into the tank with a T and it is 1/4" NPT so a very common easy to find part. If you get a street T with a female NPT on the run side, you can screw the pressure switch into one port and then an airline quick disconnect into the other. After that you build a simple adapter that lets you run the tire fill hose from a Co2 bottle to the quick disconnect.

That will give you emergency compressed gas source to pressurize the small ARB compressor tank and let you still run the lockers through the switches.

The reality of it is if you do it that way, because you have it, you will never need it. Or at least that has been my experience.

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I've been running the ARB large compressor for ~2 years now.
I like to pick on the OX fanatics by telling them my ARB compressor has been in continual use on my rig longer than OX has been in business.

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post #32939 of 40472 Old 07-01-2013, 03:03 PM
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This is actually a rare debate (for SD forum) where actually no one is "arguing." Its good wholesome opinion. I run a detroit in the rear and an ARB up front. I only use the front when I HAVE to and otherwise try to keep it off. That doesnt defend the theory of broken lines (isnt that what would kill ANY ARB?).
ARB locker or compressor?



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I remember the ARB compressor (at the time) was dog crap in way of airing my tires at the end of the day but it worked just fine for the 85-90 psi to keep the locker going. Maybe they have improved.
They did improve, they made the compressor so small that it no longer requires a relay and no one would ever air up a tire with it. They make larger versions if you want to inflate tires.


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I also had the VERY 1st batch of TeraFlex "adjustable control arm lift (1997)that was an utter failure keeping me from EVER buying Teraflex products again. If I recall, and it was a good 12-13 yrs ago now, I ditched the ARB compressor for the york because I liked the idea of being able to run up to 150psi on the trail continuously. Airing tires, running a cut off wheel, blowing out the jeep, blowing out the garage... etc. My system is so leak free that I can fill my little 2.5gal tank to about 120 psi and use the ARB ALL DAY.
You'll have to do a demonstration for us one of these days because I've yet to see a York based engine driven system that will run a die grinder with a cut off wheel long or fast enough to do much good.

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Maybe I'll keep a bicycle pump on stand by in case something fails. Which ever way you go Roberto, glad your getting some air.
I guess the readers digest version is
if you want to just run an ARB locker, get a simple electric compressor
if you want something that you can use for more than just that get a huge bottle of CO2 mount it somewhere or get a belt driven set up...
Northern tool used to sell a stand alone air compressor with a 12v clutch on it. About the time I thought I would get one and investigate it's virtues or lack thereof, they were nowhere to be found.

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You'll have to do a demonstration for us one of these days because I've yet to see a York based engine driven system that will run a die grinder with a cut off wheel long or fast enough to do much good.
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