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Unread 04-10-2010, 01:23 PM   #1
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My rear end hurts.

Took my Jeep (2004 Rubicon) up to Jack Powell in Escondido today. While it was on the rack I noticed some seepage from the rear axel seals (dana 44). The Tech. confirmed, said I needed two new axel seals.

He then grabbed my rear shaft at the diff, moved it slightly, and said I needed new pinion bearings. Ok I saw that there was a bit of movement at the pinion, and saw the oil seeping from the seals.

So the Tech said I should start thinking (can't say for sure how long things will last) about having the diff serviced. New seals, and pinion bearings (if thats all thats needed). He gave me a rough estimate of $1000.00 + or - a few $$.

I have 46,000 miles on the clock right now.

So does that sound reasonable?

Options are,

1, Wait and see if it gets worse until its a must do?

2, Take it back to the dealer, $1000.00?

3, Take it to a local diff shop in San Diego Co? (Need recomendations on that one)

4, Do it my self (highly unlikely), with a little help from my friends (you all)?
I have no idea what the hell Im in for though.

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Unread 04-10-2010, 03:25 PM   #2
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Took my Jeep (2004 Rubicon) up to Jack Powell in Escondido today. While it was on the rack I noticed some seepage from the rear axel seals (dana 44). The Tech. confirmed, said I needed two new axel seals.

He then grabbed my rear shaft at the diff, moved it slightly, and said I needed new pinion bearings. Ok I saw that there was a bit of movement at the pinion, and saw the oil seeping from the seals.

So the Tech said I should start thinking (can't say for sure how long things will last) about having the diff serviced. New seals, and pinion bearings (if thats all thats needed). He gave me a rough estimate of $1000.00 + or - a few $$.

I have 46,000 miles on the clock right now.

So does that sound reasonable?

Options are,

1, Wait and see if it gets worse until its a must do?

2, Take it back to the dealer, $1000.00?

3, Take it to a local diff shop in San Diego Co? (Need recomendations on that one)

4, Do it my self (highly unlikely), with a little help from my friends (you all)?
I have no idea what the hell Im in for though.

Is it that hard to replace the seals and bearing? I have no idea, but it doesn't seem like it's that much trouble.
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Unread 04-10-2010, 04:05 PM   #3
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I called ORW in Escondido they gave me a ball park figure of $500.00, but will charge me to look at it.

Found this place in Kearney Mesa I think they be closed on Sat / Sun,,,

PRO GEAR DIFFERENTIALS - San Diego's Original Gear and Axle shop. Differential parts and repair.
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Unread 04-10-2010, 05:17 PM   #4
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500 from ORW? i figured they would be expensive as hell.
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Unread 04-10-2010, 05:22 PM   #5
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i had my spider gear replaced by horizon performance drivetrain.
only link i could find to his place Horizon Performance Drivetrain lakeside auto repair 619-990-1718

11982 woodside ave #106
lakeside,ca
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Unread 04-10-2010, 05:39 PM   #6
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Ok Ill keep that one in mind.
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Unread 04-10-2010, 06:02 PM   #7
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I called ORW in Escondido they gave me a ball park figure of $500.00, but will charge me to look at it.

Found this place in Kearney Mesa I think they be closed on Sat / Sun,,,

PRO GEAR DIFFERENTIALS - San Diego's Original Gear and Axle shop. Differential parts and repair.
Pro gear is the ****. Best customer service ever.
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Unread 04-12-2010, 11:27 PM   #8
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So the Tech said I should start thinking...
Well that's not going to do any good

Go for broke, get a Super 44 with an ARB, they can be had for about $1200 plus install

San Diego Gear and Axle in El Cajon is also a great shop. I'm not certain I would trust my rear end to ORW...
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Unread 04-13-2010, 12:22 AM   #9
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He gave me a rough estimate of $1000.00 + or - a few $$.

So does that sound reasonable?

3, Take it to a local diff shop in San Diego Co? (Need recomendations on that one)

4, Do it my self (highly unlikely), with a little help from my friends (you all)?
I have no idea what the hell Im in for though.
That price seems WAY too high. I'd expect ~1/2 that or less.

Sounds like a master install kit (which will include new carrier bearings, pinion bearing, pinion seal, gear marking compound etc) along with a set of outer seals is what's probably needed.

Gear set-up should be ~$250-$300, plus the master install kit & 2 outer seals.

Unless you can get a warranty - I'd go with #3.

If the gears are showing too much wear - they *might* need replacement which would drive the cost up some - but certainly NOT to $1,000.
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Unread 04-13-2010, 06:50 AM   #10
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We just did a Dana 44 at my shop all new bearings and seals 559.00 with syn gear lube thats what it should cost.

Our labor rate is 78 per hour. We have been in temecula for 25 years and thats just the normal deal. I know were a drive from SD but id be happy to throw it up in the air N/c and give you an estimate.

One other thing we use Timken bearings none of that China junk.
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Unread 04-13-2010, 10:19 AM   #11
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^^^That's a nice offer & reasonable.^^^
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Unread 04-13-2010, 10:35 AM   #12
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We just did a Dana 44 at my shop all new bearings and seals 559.00 with syn gear lube thats what it should cost.

Our labor rate is 78 per hour. We have been in temecula for 25 years and thats just the normal deal. I know were a drive from SD but id be happy to throw it up in the air N/c and give you an estimate.

One other thing we use Timken bearings none of that China junk.
Dave

^^^^ This guy knows his Jeeps. Just take it to him and leave him a blank check. Kidding. You do that and your Jeep will be in a bunch of magazines next month.
Seriously, Dave can take care of you Dave.
If you need me to bring my trailer down to bring it up here I'd be glad to if it's not drivable.
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Unread 04-13-2010, 01:58 PM   #13
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Good info. Thx. Its drivable, for how long, its any ones guess. Im not too worried right now, its just something thats going to have to be addressed in the future. So Im compiling a list of possible places to take it. Ill drive to the places listed here and see what they think.

So Rick do you take AAA?
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Unread 04-13-2010, 02:51 PM   #14
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Good info. Thx. Its drivable, for how long, its any ones guess. Im not too worried right now, its just something thats going to have to be addressed in the future. So Im compiling a list of possible places to take it. Ill drive to the places listed here and see what they think.

So Rick do you take AAA?
No, but with enough beer I'll need AA.

Just let me know if you need a tow. Sound's like a jingle eh?
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Unread 04-13-2010, 03:19 PM   #15
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TIMKEN = WIN! fyi...
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