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Unread 04-17-2010, 03:12 PM   #16
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You're exactly correct.



I know a few who make a point of un-belting when they get off pavement and I think they are idiots. ALWAYS WEAR YOUR SEATBELT!








Absolutely!



A good spotter is essential. There are time when the driver cannot always see or feel what's happening (especially without experience) and you have to trust him or her completely. Life and property can and often do depend on it.




Again, I'm sure the spotter feels terrible, but the fact of the matter is that he had no business being a spotter, IMO.




Noticed this, too. I foolishly did the same thing last year thinking it was just "a short section." Pulled my ps front into a rut and flopped the rig onto its side. : Lesson: there are no sections short enough to override safety.




His hand signals were beyond horrible; they were at best unclear, inconsistent, and confusing.

He looked like Mr. Furley (Don Knotts) from Three's Company flailing his arms in wild gesticulations.
Hey man. Don't break apart my post or anything.

Anyone know anymore about the Lady now? If she was new, I'm kind of guessing she doesn't want to wheel no more. I wouldn't either, it that's the kind of people my spotters/friends were.

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Unread 04-17-2010, 03:50 PM   #17
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All points have been covered that I wanted to address by previous posts, except for one. I'm very surprised to see that the air bag didn't go off.
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Unread 04-17-2010, 04:02 PM   #18
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I'm very surprised to see that the air bag didn't go off.
I don't think the jeep was moving fast enough. I also read somewhere that it won't go off in 4Lo but I'm unsure if that is correct.
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Unread 04-17-2010, 05:48 PM   #19
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They really only go off in HARD rollovers and significant front impacts. It doesn't surprise me that they didn't deploy. The Jeep wasn't damaged very badly... If she had her seatbelt on she most likely would have opened the door and been fine. Pissed off, but fine nonetheless.
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Unread 04-17-2010, 07:15 PM   #20
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Hey man. Don't break apart my post or anything.

Anyone know anymore about the Lady now? If she was new, I'm kind of guessing she doesn't want to wheel no more. I wouldn't either, it that's the kind of people my spotters/friends were.
She is still recovering, it's her second jeep.
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Unread 04-17-2010, 07:47 PM   #21
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Not only was that a horrible spotter, it appeared to me that driver was taking directions from several people.. I was taught that the DRIVER needs to pick one person to be his/her spotter and everyone else needs to keep their mouth shut.
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Unread 04-17-2010, 11:41 PM   #22
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It's been some time since I've driven HAH. Best wishes for the lady.

So many things went wrong, I don't know where to begin.

I feel disaster started before the video clip began on the decent.
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Unread 04-18-2010, 12:15 AM   #23
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Rumor has it that the spotter was the driver's husband.....
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Unread 04-18-2010, 05:28 PM   #24
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Spotting can be pretty simple and easy to understand; it can also be a downright mess that is impossible to understand.

In this particular case, with the spotter flailing his hands about, having no discernible direction he is pointing to makes it impossible to know what he wants.

It was at that time the drivers responsibility to call him on it and tell him to get the hell out of the way and let someone they can understand point the way.

I have had good and bad experiences spotting and being spotted.

I am quite selective about who spots me over difficult obstacles. I do try to be 99% committed to what they tell me even when it feels wrong. I know my spotters, and know they wouldn't do anything to hurt me or my rig intentionally.

They might spot me into being stuck for their own sick pleasures, but nothing to intentionally break my jeep or make me cry.
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Unread 04-18-2010, 09:32 PM   #25
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They might spot me into being stuck for their own sick pleasures, but nothing to intentionally break my jeep or make me cry.
Now who'd do something like that.
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Unread 04-19-2010, 06:32 PM   #26
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right before the roll i was wondering what the hell the spotter was thinking directing the driver to stay to the right at the bottom, kind of pointing her up that small mound that caused her to roll. the driver couldve easily turned driver and not even touched that small mound and been fine.
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And to keep direction clear from the spotter using words like "drivers" side or "passenger" side instead of "right" or "left". The driver does not know if you are calling out your right or the drivers right
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Unread 04-19-2010, 09:08 PM   #28
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Driver will recover? Well, this may sound harsh, but that's the part that is too bad. Darwin should be allowed to work.

Crappy driving combined with stupidity should be punished harshly. It prevents those traits from being passed on.

Hopefully she learned her lesson and will in the future wear any and all appropriate safety gear.... of which a seatbelt is the DEAD minimum.
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Driver will recover? Well, this may sound harsh, but that's the part that is too bad. Darwin should be allowed to work.

Crappy driving combined with stupidity should be punished harshly. It prevents those traits from being passed on.

Hopefully she learned her lesson and will in the future wear any and all appropriate safety gear.... of which a seatbelt is the DEAD minimum.
If that were the case, 90 percent of the Earth's population would have gone under a long time ago.
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If that were the case, 90 percent of the Earth's population would have gone under a long time ago.
Yeah, and I gotta say I DO feel for the driver.... but hell, no spotter at all woulda been better, and WITH a seatbelt, the likely outcome would have been a couple days of Tylenol, not months of recovery and thousands in medical bills.

This was sheer stupidity all around.

And if that was disconnected... must be mighty stiff suspension.
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